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Old 12-09-2007, 02:20 PM   #1
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Fog lights as headlights (legal?)

I was wondering if anyone knows if it's legal in Ontario to run headlights (HIDS in my case) in my fogs, and just have angel eyes or nothing in my headlights.


If so how would the lighting be as compared to running the hids in my headlights?

Also, sort of unrelated, I currently have 6000k HIDS in my headlights and they seem to blind a lot of people. For example if I'm making a left turn at an intersection, I usually blind the person making a left turn in the opposite direction and I frequently get high beamed or dirty looks. Also If i pull up behind a car at a red light I totally light up their interior and they usually flick their rear view mirror to avoid the glare of my lights or signal to me to turn off my high beams (even though they are not on). They are aimed almost as low as possible on an e36. Will positioning them in my fogs create less of a blinding glare, as they will no longer be at eye level to most other drivers ?(unless someone is dumped that low...lol)
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:26 PM   #2
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in order to use fogs as your driving ligihts, (lowbeams), they must be able to illuminate a sign 150 meters away. Your fog HID's should do that just fine.

Having said that, i have modified foglights. Depo Euro clears + HID's + restrictor plates cut out (max brightness), and i still dont think they're bright enough to drive with, unless, the road has road lights. If its completly dark, you need more lights.

What kind of headlight housings are you running?
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:58 PM   #3
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Turn on your headlights at nite time for crying out loud... they are there to serve its purpose. No one gives a shit about how nice your AE setup if you can't drive properly due to visibility.. and more likely you will get pull over by cops too.. Not worth the hassle.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:15 PM   #4
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In the front all I have is my corners on (DRL removed) and 3000k H1 fogs on. You should be fine. Its just temporary for me until I get my TSX retrofit done with some Umnitza or DIY AE.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:18 PM   #5
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Its very unlikely you actually get pulled over for driving like that, and if they do pull you over, there's not much the cops can do. Those lights are legal.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:37 PM   #6
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well in my case drive with stock fogs running hids, and for my headlights i have just the AEs, so far i didnt have a problem with cops or visabillity, fogs are aimed a little bit up, and i think light up the road good!!! BTW i saw your car on steeles like a week ago, and yeah your hids blind people, i was one of them!!
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:39 PM   #7
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you saw my car on steeles last week?
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:42 PM   #8
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Headlight housing is depo (glass). So I guess my major concern would be that I won't have sufficient lighting running simply HID fogs. So in that case I might as well keep a nice of h1 bulbs in my lowbeams and turn them on whenever need be. If I find the road is well lit or its not too dark out I can just run the fogs and keep my lowbeams off an ae on. My next question would be is who makes good headlight bulbs? (non hid). I want a nice light, without the cheap yellow halogen look
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:43 PM   #9
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No he saw mine...I'm on steeles all the time..lol. Ya I need to fix those blinding lights asap...sorry for that! lol
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:44 PM   #10
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v_bimmer , what colour is your car?
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:48 PM   #11
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If you have depo headlights, and you're blinding people, your headlights aren't adjusted correctly.

Be sure you set both adjustment points, both the internal one in the light, as well as the external one which attaches the headlight housing to your rad support.

depo's have cutoffs, cutoff= no blinding.
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:52 PM   #12
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hmmm , I don't think both are adjusted, I only remember adjusting one, the internal one I believe. Got a link for a DIY?
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There's an opening for an allen key on the top of the headlight housing. I believe counter clockwise is to lower it.
This seems to be the one you've done already.



The other adjustment is considerably easier to do.
1. Open hood
2. Look at the top screws holding the headlight in. There should be 2 (OEM is 3, no one uses the middle one) 8mm screws holding the headlight into mounting peices on the rad support.
3. Unscrew those 8mm screws.
4. If you look at the mounting peice you just unscrewed those 8mm from, they themselves are threaded. The farther out you unscrew them, the lower your light will be. The farther you screw them in, the higher your light will be.
5. In your case, unscrew them almost as far as they will go, but enough to still be threaded into the rad support. You dont have to remove the headlight to adjust them, just angle the headlight away from them and unscrew.
6. Turn the car on, turn HID's on, see if they're the right level. Play with it until it is, then re-thread the 8mm screws.

You're done.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:10 PM   #14
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Thanks a lot man! I'll try it out tonight
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:32 PM   #15
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hmmm, so Is this basically the threading piece that the 8mm screw is connected to? Maybe I'm missing something but how does moving those out change how my headlights aim?
What a good tool to move them with, they felt very firm in their place (after I removed the 8mm).
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