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Old 11-18-2007, 11:56 AM   #1
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Lexus IS250 AWD what do you think??

Since my car spinned once on the snow last year I am kind of scare of driving a car on the snow.

I put winter tires but still I am kind of not want to drive RWD anymore on the snow.

I was looking at e46 325xi or 330xi but I don't really like e46 sedan.

If there is e46 coupe (AWD) but there is no such thing.

IS250 AWD what do you think??

reliability? performance? gas mileage? handling?

I Need your opinion thanks
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:24 PM   #2
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You dont like the e46 sedan? Y?
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:35 PM   #3
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:37 PM   #4
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buy a FWD winter beater. It's cheaper.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:11 PM   #5
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Get a brand new 3 series they come in 2 door awd
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:57 PM   #6
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The IS is a good car- think of it as a more relaxed/comfort version of the BMW.

The only difference between RWD and AWD is when you are on the gas. Off the gas, both will handle the exact same. It does not help you stop, or turn. All AWD does is help you get up to speed quicker in conditions where you should not be going quick.

An E46 with skid control is already good enough IMO. No matter how hard I tried, I could never get the rear end to step out more than one inch with the VSC on...and this was in deep snow...
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:25 AM   #7
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Mine comes with ACS... not DSC.. damn !!
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:29 AM   #8
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With winter tires I really don't think you should have that much problems. Beem driving E34's with LSD and ACS for years now with winter tires, and I never really had any problems.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:18 AM   #9
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The IS is a good car- think of it as a more relaxed/comfort version of the BMW.

The only difference between RWD and AWD is when you are on the gas. Off the gas, both will handle the exact same. It does not help you stop, or turn. All AWD does is help you get up to speed quicker in conditions where you should not be going quick.

An E46 with skid control is already good enough IMO. No matter how hard I tried, I could never get the rear end to step out more than one inch with the VSC on...and this was in deep snow...
AWD will help you turn in snow, it requires a diff driving style then RWD to get the most out of it in snow, especially when its a bit deeper.
But RWD with snows is just fine like most have already mentioned.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:53 AM   #10
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actually no....AWD will not help in turning, unless you try speeding through curves while on the gas. In that case it may give slightly better hold before you spin out, but if you don't pound the gas in the turns, the only advantage AWD has is the initial launch.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:12 AM   #11
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Since my car spinned once on the snow last year I am kind of scare of driving a car on the snow.
I put winter tires but still I am kind of not want to drive RWD anymore on the snow.
I was looking at e46 325xi or 330xi but I don't really like e46 sedan.
If there is e46 coupe (AWD) but there is no such thing.

IS250 AWD what do you think??
reliability? performance? gas mileage? handling?

I Need your opinion thanks
A Lexus will be way more reliable than a BMW. However, an e46 with snow tires should be really good in the Winter. You probably need to do one of the following:

A) Get Better Snow Tires. What are you running?

B) Get thinner snow tires (205's are better). 225 are probably too wide. Snow Tires should be thin, so they cut through the snow, rather than acting like skies and sliding over the snow.

C) Learn to drive better. There is really no execuse for spinning out a e46 with snow tires, unless you are messing around. Many people go through Toronto winters without any incidents, driving an e46 with snows. ACS is just fine, and does a good job of keeping the car in control. You really need to go into a parking lot and practice. You need to treat RWD with respect.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:24 AM   #12
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I find the E46 to be the worst winter car I've ever driven in 21 years of driving. Been through 3 sets of winter tires too, 205/55/R16s. Michelins, Hankooks, and now Toyos. And I thought I knew how to drive in winter, being from Nova Scotia and having driven in some crazy storms. Never had a car handle so badly in winter. Christ, the ass wants to come out no matter what you do. I could spin out in a puddle of water. My next winter car will definetly NOT be a bimmer.

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Old 11-19-2007, 12:06 PM   #13
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Worst.....far from that!

An E46 with proper snow tires, ASC or DSCII on, and a proper driver behind the wheel is a very safe car. Never had the rear end come out, unless I was forcing it, and expected it to.

You have to treat a RWD car with respect. That’s why FWD cars became so popular in the 80’s and 90’s. You can drive them without thinking.

I find the e46 (with snows) to be more stable in the snow/ice than my 4 Wheel Drive SUV with all-season tires. With a near 50/50 weight distribution of a e46, it slides very predictably if you make it.

I'm getting snows for the SUV as well. When SUV’s start sliding, they are a handful with all that weight.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:09 PM   #14
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I find the E46 to be the worst winter car I've ever driven in 21 years of driving. Been through 3 sets of winter tires too, 205/55/R16s. Michelins, Hankooks, and now Toyos. And I thought I knew how to drive in winter, being from Nova Scotia and having driven in some crazy storms. Never had a car handle so badly in winter. Christ, the ass wants to come out no matter what you do. I could spin out in a puddle of water. My next winter car will definetly NOT be a bimmer.

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Old 11-19-2007, 12:37 PM   #15
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As people have said, the E46 is pretty easy to drive in the snow with snow tires. You just have to know how to drive a RWD car in those conditions. You can't expect to pound the throttle and have the car react the same was as in the summer JUST because you have snow tires. It doesn't work like that. That being said, AWD in the winter is better than RWD as it allows for you to get the car moving more easily and allows you to take turns more confidently because there is less chance to have the tail slide out from under you.

The lexus is a good car all around and the AWD is suppose to be pretty good. However, I've heard that the IS250 AWD is suppose to feel slow because of the extra weight of the AWD system.

Must be nice to buy a practically new lexus to use as a winter beater!!! LOL
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