Turbo E46 M3 has begun!!! - Page 5

Blades · 09-14-2007, 07:21 PM

hmm .. odd place to put the BOV.

Boots R · 09-14-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blades

hmm .. odd place to put the BOV.

Quite smart actually. Less backflow of air when the throttle bodies slam shut.

Sickbimmer · 09-15-2007, 07:21 AM

Don't forget the second one located behind the fog light, Mounted just above the turbo.

Blades · 09-15-2007, 10:55 AM

its going to sound so sweet!!! BOV FTW

Jon@Bimmersport · 09-15-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven

Sweet vid! Is that guy sure there is a VF S/C under the hood of the vert though? It didn't seem all that impressive against the stock M3, seems to take forever to kick in. ... The turbo car is SICK though! Crazy. Let's set up some similar runs when you get your car back, I'm thinkin' HPF M3 vs. Stock M3 vs. Procede 335i vs. VF S/C E36 M3

... I'll be the camera car.

forget the vf s/c e36 m3...lol, how bout a GT35R 332is? Next summer is going to be so much fun!

boots is right, its a good place to release the extra pressure..

Jim .E. · 09-15-2007, 06:59 PM

fab progress looks good, however why 2 BOV's?

AceOfSpades · 09-16-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim .E.

fab progress looks good, however why 2 BOV's?

2 much pressure maybe?

thats gonna be a siiiick siiiiick M3

hybrid · 09-17-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SickFinga

so all those 600whp HPF cars were dynoed on race gas?
I'm sorry Fabio, but 415whp isnt that impressive. Didnt you put down more with your SC?

errr .. 415Whp has far more torque down low than a 500whp+ centrifugal supercharger. (IE more powerful) SC's only display their top HP figures at the highest of RPM

Either way ... that car wont be slow with the HPF kit.

**SickFinga** · 09-17-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

errr .. 415Whp has far more torque down low than a 500whp+ centrifugal supercharger. (IE more powerful) SC's only display their top HP figures at the highest of RPM

Either way ... that car wont be slow with the HPF kit.

Well, according to HPF, turbo m3 put down 317 wheel torque, according to this

Fabio had 330 wheel torque. (though I'm very surprised about this as well)

and yes, I know very well about CF SC power delivery.

Sickbimmer · 09-17-2007, 07:32 PM

Just to let you guys know, The AA kit was at 7.5psi while the HPF low boost setting is at 5.5psi. Thats why the #'s are low. It's the 450lbs of TQ on race gas mode is what I'm more interested in.
Either way, I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

Quack · 09-17-2007, 07:37 PM

I called shotgun

hybrid · 09-17-2007, 10:34 PM

sweet

just see it time and time again on state side forums where people get all confused about superchargers and turbos when at the end of the day you can have a 300whp N/A car that can own a 500whp S/C or Turbo car.

This is why im retaining vanos on my s50b32 turbo project. Sure ill have around 815bhp but realistically most of the drivabilty down is down low and where alot of gains are made.

The HPF kit looks really really good and in my mind has all the right values to being a nice first introduction into F/I while keeping N/A charactistics down low. (high compression is kept)

Its just anoouying sometimes seeing people say "Kit X" has more hp that "Kit Z" when at the end of the day its torque and power to weight/delivery that wins.

peas.

**SickFinga** · 09-17-2007, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by superM3

Just to let you guys know, The AA kit was at 7.5psi while the HPF low boost setting is at 5.5psi. Thats why the #'s are low. It's the 450lbs of TQ on race gas mode is what I'm more interested in.
Either way, I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

The thing is, turbos are more efficient than SC. Meaning turbo can push more air at less boost.

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Originally Posted by hybrid

sweet

just see it time and time again on state side forums where people get all confused about superchargers and turbos when at the end of the day you can have a 300whp N/A car that can own a 500whp S/C or Turbo car.

for half a second, maybe

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Originally Posted by hybrid

Its just anoouying sometimes seeing people say "Kit X" has more hp that "Kit Z" when at the end of the day its torque and power to weight/delivery that wins.

peas.

I'm not saying AA SC is better than HPF kit, what I'm saying is that installing AA kit, then removing it after a year to install a 16k kit just so you can have the same hp 3k rpm's earlier is just not worth it.

Also if I remember correctly when HPF was still in beta stages of building the kit, they posted on forums that they were expecting ~500whp on pump gas.

P.S. Fab, I'm speaking for all max members, we don't want to see on you pump gas

hybrid · 09-18-2007, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SickFinga

for half a second, maybe

heheh you would be suprised. We have a 550whp 2002 Turbo down here in NZ and a DTM Group A 2.5ltr '88 m3 with 300whp The two dice it round the tracks here pretty much even. Again its common misconception.

Sorry I wont push the point any more .. I've gone quite off topic

SuperM3 .. Think you have inspired me to possibly sell the 330 and grab an m3 and do a HPF kit.

**SickFinga** · 09-18-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hybrid

heheh you would be suprised. We have a 550whp 2002 Turbo down here in NZ and a DTM Group A 2.5ltr '88 m3 with 300whp The two dice it round the tracks here pretty much even. Again its common misconception.

On a track? I'm not surprised, I thought we were talking about a drag race/highway pull here.