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Old 08-16-2007, 11:36 AM   #1
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BMW. Poor crash rating?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070816/...h_tests_sedans
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:37 PM   #2
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I always have doubts on these kinda things, always thinking that their is an bias or "tweaking" of the info...

too much BMW pride i guess....
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:00 PM   #3
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325isRED, I don't know what your smoking but IIHS would have absolutely no interest in "tewaking info".. That would defeat the whole purpose of test now would it?? Come on..


I was gonna post just that article though.

I love it how the Kia costs half as much and more solidly built! Tells you something about South Korea's cars really.

I wonder what BMW has to say on the subject... This is really unacceptable for a car of this caliber. Does anyone know what the crash test rating of e39s is?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:22 PM   #4
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yeah I just saw that too. A bunch of BS!
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:40 PM   #5
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Wow, surprising news. BMW better step it up a notch!

I don't think its BS. Dont hate on the results simply because you're a BMW enthusiast. Unless you work at a crash test center, no one here can really call the results BS.
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:45 PM   #6
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Don't jump to conclusions guys. This is only one set of tests on one model, the 2008 5 series. Doesn't apply to the entire lineup. I know E46s have excellent crash test ratings. Haven't heard anything about the E92s yet. Volvo is still kicking ass, consistently, year after year. BMW should take notes from those guys.

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Old 08-16-2007, 01:54 PM   #7
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This is exactly what happens when dummies drive BMW's!
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:09 PM   #8
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kias are still butt ugly
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:14 PM   #9
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:24 PM   #10
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Quote:
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This is exactly what happens when dummies drive BMW's!
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:43 PM   #11
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Again another case of media exaggerating facts. The BMW is by no means the worst car there. Visit the IIHS website, you will see the BMW scored GOOD in all other tests, and most importantly, in the head and neck.
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:53 PM   #12
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Well they said that BMW is the poorest performing among "luxury vehicles".



The fact that KIA scored well in everything as well, and it looks like it has bigger airbags than the BMW. Maybe that helped? I don't know. The only drawback of Kia was the structure, which recieved an "M". But this test deals with protecting occupants in a side impact. In the end the Kia does it better than the BMW.


If you read up on BMW's test results, they scored POOR in front torso safety, Acceptable in rear torso safety. While the KIA scored GOOD in both.

Description of BMW Torso test:

Injury measures:

Driver Measures taken from the dummy indicate that rib fractures and/or internal organ injuries would be likely in a crash of this severity. A fracture of the pelvis would also be possible.

Rear passenger Measures taken from the dummy indicate a low risk of any significant injuries in a crash of this severity.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:44 PM   #13
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Could the car they used for these tests be a pre-production model?
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:00 AM   #14
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dont beleive in this crap, germans no how to build there shit, kia? common
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:05 AM   #15
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I trust the Euro NCAP ratings far more than the IIHS. According to NCAP, the BMW 5 series did quite well with a 4 star rating for adult and child occupants. That is, I trust the results of their tests, not their hilarious fetishes with "Pedestrian protection" and traction control. Personally, if everyone drove Caterhams and Westfields, I doubt there would be as many collisions. Vehicles with less driver distractions tend to contain less distracted drivers.

Here's the link:

www.euroncap.com

They even have crash videos of all the cars they've crashed. It's quite fun to watch if you're into that sort of thing. If you just want a list of all the results, click on "view all results" on the left side of the page, halfway down. They have slow-motion crash videos of frontal, side and pole impact tests for the current generation 5 series.
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