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Old 07-11-2007, 09:26 AM   #1
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Starter issues-M50

As of late, the starter has been spinning freely without turning over the motor. It doesn't do it everytime but it's been happening more and more often. I usually turn the key back to the off position and then try again but this morning, the starter actually turned the motor over but then started spinning just before the motor caught and started.

I figure I have about a week before it leaves me stranded and I'll need to bump start it to get home...

I don't generally mind working on the car but this one has me scared. Every thing I've read mentions this as being the most PITA part to change on the entire car. It's only somethign like 4 bolts but they happen to be 4 of the most difficult to access bolts ever....

So, any tips? Can I just change out a solenoid or something? What's the going rate for a starter anyway?
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:03 PM   #2
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bump for a fellow M50 motor... I would also try posting on bimmerforums, their e36 section is very active...
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:59 PM   #3
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that sucks Joey..It's a days job.. Involves the bell housing and what not.. Pm Jeffrie His roommate had his done and it's not fun..
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:00 PM   #4
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I'm considering just bringing it to my mechanic. If I can get a killer deal on a starter, I'll just bring it to him.

I was just reading a post on BFC and another one here. This is one task I don't want to tackle...
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:48 PM   #5
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hehe Starter is not the problem.. it's the labour!!! For sure, it's better to take it to him. You won't invent new words.. as I said pm Jeff and see where his roomate had his done.. Or even better ask Sylvain..
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:43 AM   #6
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Totally agree, had the same problem (starter spinning freely). With mine it always started on a cold engine and almost never when it got worm. Did the job myself PITA, took me about six hours (30 min of that was looking where a mysterious sensor connection and vacum hose goes ). Here is a small picture to see what I mean.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:43 AM   #7
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Wow. Yeah, I'm not generally afraid to rip apart a car but that is just...well, nuts.

Six hours eh? Thnk it would have been easier to get at from undeneath? I read soemthing on BFC where they took apart the lower crossmember and dropped the tranny. It was also mentioned that a motor swap would be less involved....
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Joey, Here's what Raph(Striker) had to say about it on the Ottawa Forum..
http://bmw.turboready.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=68
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Nice, well that confirms it, I'll be bringing it to my mechanic when this starter fails.
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Wow. Yeah, I'm not generally afraid to rip apart a car but that is just...well, nuts.

Six hours eh? Thnk it would have been easier to get at from undeneath?
My buddy mechanic told me its a 3-3.5 hr job in their books. He did it from underneath, like you said (lowered the tranny and some suspension components. I did it from up top since I don't have access to a lift, (the worst part is getting those two torx bolts, you can only go about a 1/4 of a turn - if that RPITA. I think on my second attempt I could shave it down to 4 hrs. Six is quite decent for a weekend mechanic IMHO. Plus it gives you a chance to clean out all those nasty deposits out of your manifold/block runners.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:17 AM   #11
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Hey Joey how is the starter holding out?

Listen if you want, we can do it here anytime of the day or night
This will give you a good excuse to come down and see our house..
Your dad was here yesterday...too bad i just found out...He could of dropped the car over for me to fix.

Damm it's already 4am and Lee is coming over in 5 hours to do the complete engine rebuilt on his ride..I guess i will need to make sure i count all the bolts twice and recheck my torque

Tony, did get yourself a nice M50 powertrain for your ride or you just want me to boost it with a nice little supercharger....or i could just put a nice little bottle in your trunk and surprise Jeff next time he tries to pull away from you.

By the way, when are we doing the Sly's BBQ with the boys from our region...it's kind of boring these days i have not seen any of the boys in a long time...
Anyway let me know
And Joey give me a call or send me a pm about that starter issue.
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:13 AM   #12
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Thanks Syl!

I'll let you know what happens. It's been good ever since I posted about it...

When we have that BBQ, I'll bring Hayley...she loves playing with Marielle.
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This is what makes me like Subaru!!! One of the easyest cars to work on; starter job takes about 30min! lol
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This is what makes me like Subaru!!! One of the easyest cars to work on; starter job takes about 30min! lol
Yea but they all have that same problem with the headgasket leaking oil.
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Yea but they all have that same problem with the headgasket leaking oil.
Valve cover gaskets leak the oil! The headgaskets just blow!!! But then engine swaps are done in about 5 hours!
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