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Old 02-28-2007, 03:38 PM   #31
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Anything Alpine, especially in the upper half of their range.
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Old 02-28-2007, 03:46 PM   #32
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I have about $2000 i mine, some parts new others used slowly peiced together, MAN that money could have been more well spent lol
ha ha join the club, i coulda had my e30 moving a little quicker without the system i have, im up there as well, im in the 3000 range without installations, and i can imagine what labor it would have cost me for my trunk that i did
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:25 PM   #33
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I've used a ton of head units over the years. At the end of the day, all the flashy feature loaded decks .......... I barely use any of the features on a daily basis. Be careful of getting suckered by all the gizmos. Most important feature is that the damn thing is easy to operate and that it sounds good.

Ebay is great for deals (sometimes), but you really take your chances. I have 170 some odd transactions on Ebay and some of them were bad. But if you're willing to risk it, giddy-up. I don't anymore.


My order of preference:

Adaptor to use the factory head unit that gets signal into a set of RCA's. This keeps the car looking stock. Factory head units actually have decent transport sections.
Amplifer(s).
Speakers and sub.
Tuning gear (cross over, EQ, time alignment, parametric, etc)


BTW, less is better. You really only need a pair of components up front and a sub. 5 speakers is all you need for awesome sound.
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:27 PM   #34
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Okay, Alpine has this one in my price range:

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/prod...&lang=en&tab=F

The CDA-9885, just over $400CAD. Any input? I'm clueless when it comes to all these stats! Dammit I wish I knew how to read this shit:

"CEA-2006 Power Rating
CEA-2006 Power Rating (4Ohm@14.4 V =1% THD+N), S/N 80dBA (Ref: 1W into 4Ohm): 16W x 4

Max Power Output: 45W x 4"

Errrr, is that good? Anyone wanna translate this crap for me? Its practically like reading Chinese to me, and I ain't Chinese.

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Old 02-28-2007, 04:45 PM   #35
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I've used a ton of head units over the years. At the end of the day, all the flashy feature loaded decks .......... I barely use any of the features on a daily basis. Be careful of getting suckered by all the gizmos. Most important feature is that the damn thing is easy to operate and that it sounds good.

Ebay is great for deals (sometimes), but you really take your chances. I have 170 some odd transactions on Ebay and some of them were bad. But if you're willing to risk it, giddy-up. I don't anymore.


My order of preference:

Adaptor to use the factory head unit that gets signal into a set of RCA's. This keeps the car looking stock. Factory head units actually have decent transport sections.
Amplifer(s).
Speakers and sub.
Tuning gear (cross over, EQ, time alignment, parametric, etc)


BTW, less is better. You really only need a pair of components up front and a sub. 5 speakers is all you need for awesome sound.
Great advice! I'm not into gizmos much, but I do like the idea of being able to hook a USB key directly into the head unit. That way, I can just load up a 2gig USB key full of MP3s and go, no CDs required. THAT appeals to me since I tend to burn CDs like crazy and toss em out after a few weeks when they start to skip. So I don't think I'll be keeping the stock head unit. Plus, that Alpine deck I mentioned above is Ipod ready in addition to the USB thing. These gizmos might actually be useful.

Any input on the Alpine deck I mentioned, the CDA-9885, or the Pioneer DEH-P880PRS?

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Old 03-01-2007, 01:53 AM   #36
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here is my list of decks and in this order too...Eclipse,Alpine,Pioneer,Blaupunkt,Clarion and Kenwood....
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:38 AM   #37
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here is my list of decks and in this order too...Eclipse,Alpine,Pioneer,Blaupunkt,Clarion and Kenwood....
I would have never even put Pioneer in that list. Its like a canadian tire brand to me .. really cheap like legacy. I think I would change it for Panasonic
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:45 AM   #38
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I would have never even put Pioneer in that list. Its like a canadian tire brand to me .. really cheap like legacy. I think I would change it for Panasonic
Wow. Never heard Pioneer described like that before! Most audiophiles I talk to love em. Exactly what do you base that on? I'm deck hunting now and I'm probably buying that Pioneer DEH-P880PRS within 2 hours.

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Old 03-01-2007, 02:33 PM   #39
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I would have never even put Pioneer in that list. Its like a canadian tire brand to me .. really cheap like legacy. I think I would change it for Panasonic
there three lines of Pioneer,so the suff you get at C/T is the same bestbuy and furtureshop,when there is suff at wal-mart....then can just look at Eclipes or Alpine then......
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:21 PM   #40
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Pioneer, Apline or Eclipse only way to go.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:28 PM   #41
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Wow. Never heard Pioneer described like that before! Most audiophiles I talk to love em. Exactly what do you base that on? I'm deck hunting now and I'm probably buying that Pioneer DEH-P880PRS within 2 hours.

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Old 03-01-2007, 09:29 PM   #42
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there three lines of Pioneer,so the suff you get at C/T is the same bestbuy and furtureshop,when there is suff at wal-mart....then can just look at Eclipes or Alpine then......
meh .. to all there own.
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:38 AM   #43
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After more reading and a trip to a local shop, now I'm told Clarion makes good decks, and one of their new models (DZX775USB) sounds like another amazing bang-for-the-buck unit, around $350. Any comments on Clarion?

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:31 AM   #44
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Lately, the quality of all the top manufacturers has gone down. They are making stuff look similar to the previous years but the guts are way cheaper.............. Pioneer has fallen big time. Even some Alpine stuff is crap now. I'm not a fan of Clarion........... I had the 8255 (?!).... yucky. Eclipse, not too sure but some people swear by them. It's been a while since I played with Eclipse so my thoughts are based on their older stuff. Some people have said good things about the upper JVC decks...... but I don't know. It's really crap shoot. Even the Nak stuff has gone to plastic junk. If someone asked me now for a good solid deck that just does the basics and is good quality, I'd stand there with the "deer in the headlites" look. All I'd say is watch out for the gizmo decks. For the most part, I've found that you rarely use the gizmos. Thus why I think it's best to stay with a factory deck and say that device Audio Control has......... can't remember what it's called, but allows you to use yoru factory deck. And that allows you to start a great system that is stealth and factory looking which = less likely to be stolen.

The deck I have new in a box is a Rockford 8250i (basically a Denon between the Z1 and R1). Its a radio and CD player......... and that's it. But it has a crazy awesome CD transport....... although I wish it had a digital out for connection directly to a processor. That's the kinda stuff I like. I'll likely hook it up to an ARC Audio DEX processor and ARC Audio Signature Series amps ........... maybe Morel or DLS speakers, IDQ 15" sub. Pretty simple setup that's tunable for my tastes.


Oh, and for those wanting a screen......... say for the back seats, check out the deal at Canadian tire for the head rest mounted 7" with built in player. Can't go wrong for $130.
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Old 03-02-2007, 11:04 AM   #45
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I'm not a fan of Clarion........... I had the 8255 (?!).... yucky.
Define "yucky".

I'm looking for some decent sound quality first and foremost, for under $450. Tough order it seems. But maybe I'm overthinking this. I'm probably going to be stuck with stock speakers for now (or maybe not if I can get a good price on a package deal). Plus, the USB input appeals to me. If I can toss 2 or 4gigs of MP3s on a USB key, I may never even PLAY a CD in the friggin thing!

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