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Old 01-02-2007, 01:21 PM   #1
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scraping noise from behind odometer

Well recently Ive noticed a noise from in or around my steering wheel area. A scraping noise appears to come from behind my speedo area.

Ive done some diags and noticed that if the steering wheel is at its lowest postion I get this scraping type noise when in gear and driving off, louder when car is cold. Noise goes if I put steering wheel back in the top position. In neutral no noise even when reving.

Turning the wheel makes no difference either.

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Old 01-02-2007, 05:21 PM   #2
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I hear this too!
Usually I hear it when the car is cold, or when I am high-reving!
It's not constant though!

It's maybe a stupid guess, but could it be the buzzer of when you leave the lights on and open the door????
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:35 PM   #3
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:45 PM   #4
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I hear this too!
Usually I hear it when the car is cold, or when I am high-reving!It's not constant though!

It's maybe a stupid guess, but could it be the buzzer of when you leave the lights on and open the door????
Yep exactly.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:24 AM   #5
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Had that in my old Tercel. Cold days it would be scraping, sounded like the plastic gears were slipping or something on the speedo. The faster I went the louder it got. Once the car was warmed up it would stop. You could probablly rip your cluster out and lube up those gears. That might help you out. Or check the condition of the gears and replace them.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:38 PM   #6
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Had that in my old Tercel. Cold days it would be scraping, sounded like the plastic gears were slipping or something on the speedo. The faster I went the louder it got. Once the car was warmed up it would stop. You could probablly rip your cluster out and lube up those gears. That might help you out. Or check the condition of the gears and replace them.
Sounds good, but mine doesnt make any noises once the steering wheel is raised to its highest point, but does make the scraping noise once its lowered.
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Old 01-03-2007, 03:42 PM   #7
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i get that too... but i think it's because of the cold weather that makes the meters go funky... at least i have an extra cluster just incase something broke
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i get that too... but i think it's because of the cold weather that makes the meters go funky... at least i have an extra cluster just incase something broke
Any reason why the sound wont be present if the steering wheel is raised?

When I removed the lower trim panel to investigate the amount of plugs and wires in there really put me off. I probably will try some sort of method of elimination, EG remove the lower knee bolster and drive, then remove the cluster and drive until hopefully I can locate the source.

Interestingly the BMW technical CD TIS states that the noise can be the throttle cable but I tried re-routing it to no avail.
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Had that in my old Tercel. Cold days it would be scraping, sounded like the plastic gears were slipping or something on the speedo. The faster I went the louder it got. Once the car was warmed up it would stop. You could probablly rip your cluster out and lube up those gears. That might help you out. Or check the condition of the gears and replace them.

It hasnt been occuring now these last 2-3 days, but then again it comes and goes.

Maybe next time I will remove the cluster completely and take it for a test drive. I wasnt aware that the cluster had any gears or mechanics inside of it that could make noise however?

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^^ Maybe I could be wrong. I haven't removed any clusters from BMW's. Maybe someone else could chime in.
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^^ Maybe I could be wrong. I haven't removed any clusters from BMW's. Maybe someone else could chime in.
Update really..


Well today I removed the lower knee bolster aswell as the speedo. The noise is still evident.

It can only be heard when steering is at its lowest point. I listened carefully to where the steering column meets the firewall and no noise there, its all coming from in or around the upper drivers side dash region.

Any ideas?
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:44 AM   #12
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Updated with a video file, you can clearly hear the sound at around 40seconds into the mpeg

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That almost sounds like a hole in the firewall. It sounds like the engine gets louder in the cabin when you move your steering wheel down, when you do that the hole opens up. That's what I hear, from your movie clip.
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That almost sounds like a hole in the firewall. It sounds like the engine gets louder in the cabin when you move your steering wheel down, when you do that the hole opens up. That's what I hear, from your movie clip.
Thats what I thought aswell, but when I go under the firewall area where the shaft column meets enters the engine bay there is no sound there?
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Just an update really, observed something that could be important in diagnosing this irritating problem of mine.

The noise basically doesnt occur if I turn the wheel a quarter of a turn to the left or right and leave the wheel in that position. If I centre the steering then the noise is there ( if the wheel is in lowest point as usual ).
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