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Old 10-23-2006, 10:11 AM   #16
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why not budds? We're on our second BMW from them and have had a great experience. I called around to the other BMW dealerships to see what they had in stock and I wasn't impressed with any of them at all
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:16 AM   #17
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I was at the dealership last week, looking at ~600$ a month for the 323 right now, the rate quoted at was 3.4%
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Old 10-23-2006, 01:06 PM   #18
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Picked up a 323 a couple weeks ago. Traded in one of the Audi's for it - gave us $7,500. Paying $390/month with taxes and having the freight and pdi factored into the cost.

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Old 10-23-2006, 03:02 PM   #19
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why not budds? We're on our second BMW from them and have had a great experience. I called around to the other BMW dealerships to see what they had in stock and I wasn't impressed with any of them at all
Then you're not looking around very hard. Let's just say MANY owners in the GTA BMW Community have had "less-than-satisfied" experiences with them, myself included on two counts.
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Old 10-23-2006, 03:11 PM   #20
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My family has been dealing with Mississauga BMW (and Maranello) for years without any problems. IMO it really depends on who you deal with.

As far as Budd's goes, I've dealt with them on a few occassions and don't have anything bad to say about them (I think they have the best parts department).
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Old 10-23-2006, 07:15 PM   #21
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Picked up a 323 a couple weeks ago. Traded in one of the Audi's for it - gave us $7,500. Paying $390/month with taxes and having the freight and pdi factored into the cost.

wht option u have on the 323 but why would u chose a 323 rather than 328?
so how much did u pay at delivery?
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:17 PM   #22
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wht option u have on the 323 but why would u chose a 323 rather than 328?
so how much did u pay at delivery?
It has premium package. Didn't get a 328 because it didnt suit our needs. (Have a few other cars, and plain and simply we just wanted something half decent to replace the POS Audi).

At delivery paid around $600 I believe. It includes first months payment, full tank of gas, tax, etc.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:29 PM   #23
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You should have got a 06, they had a rate of 3.9%.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:00 AM   #24
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If you calculate leases well, it usually makes sense.

Also, if you have a PRE EXISTING RELATIONSHIP with a dealership. aka flapjack, rodo, & friends, then of course they're going to waive a few extra KM, dings, etc.

many people dont have that luxury, have to fight for lower rates, etc.
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:10 PM   #25
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The only truly bad thing about leasing is the km restriction. I don't know how much bmw is but I think its 22k a year. I do more than that and I work downtown which means I use transit to get to work. So nights and weekends is more than 22k, so if someone drives to work and back, well i'm guessing it would be really easy to go over on kms. Besides...since the average kms per year that someone puts on a car is around 25k, that means that more than half the people that drive do more kms than a lease would allow.
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:28 PM   #26
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The only truly bad thing about leasing is the km restriction. I don't know how much bmw is but I think its 22k a year. I do more than that and I work downtown which means I use transit to get to work. So nights and weekends is more than 22k, so if someone drives to work and back, well i'm guessing it would be really easy to go over on kms. Besides...since the average kms per year that someone puts on a car is around 25k, that means that more than half the people that drive do more kms than a lease would allow.
BMW standard is 24k/year, they also have a low mileage option of 20k/year.
However at the time of negotiating a lease, if you believe you will go over the limit, you are able to negotiate more km's at a specified rate factored into the payment.

That being said, the last car we returned to BMW was over by approximately 3,000km's. However since we were leasing another vehicle from them, they did not charge us. Again this may be because we have purchased a number of vehicles from them in the past (although I have met a number of acquaintances that were first time bmw owners, returning their cars over mileage and not being dinged for it because they were leasing another vehicle from them).

I do agree though that is one of the only downfalls of leasing (although it has never effected my driving habits).
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I remember my first year of university I put 80k on my VW...no way I could do that on a lease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of my dad's friends had an audi back in the day(1998)...at the end of the 3 year lease she had gone over by like 50k....they wanted her to pay a ridiculous amount of money...makes sense since the vehicle will be worth alot less with 50k extra. She shoudl have not leased...it was not a good option for her driving.
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:53 PM   #28
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I remember my first year of university I put 80k on my VW...no way I could do that on a lease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One of my dad's friends had an audi back in the day(1998)...at the end of the 3 year lease she had gone over by like 50k....they wanted her to pay a ridiculous amount of money...makes sense since the vehicle will be worth alot less with 50k extra. She shoudl have not leased...it was not a good option for her driving.
In an instance like that of course it makes no sense. But how many people drive 80k in one year!?!

There are always boundaries where it makes sense and makes no sense at all. If your driving that much it makes no sense at all to do it, but thats a given
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:10 PM   #29
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In an instance like that of course it makes no sense. But how many people drive 80k in one year!?!

There are always boundaries where it makes sense and makes no sense at all. If your driving that much it makes no sense at all to do it, but thats a given
I do 40-50k a year. Not lease friendly
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I do 40-50k a year. Not lease friendly
I never said it suits everyone
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