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Old 11-08-2006, 10:16 AM   #16
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what would i have to do to the M3 E36 motor to make lets say 500rwhp-550rwhp. i want a low 11s car. what motor things would i have to do i kno that high psi would be needed

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Old 11-08-2006, 11:48 AM   #17
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what would i have to do to the M3 E36 motor to make lets say 500rwhp-550rwhp.
Throw money at it. The simple explaination lower compression, up the boost, up the fuel capabilities, make sure the motor seals properly and get it tuned.

Running 11's is a different story, all the power in the world won't do anything if you don't have traction, for that you'll need fat sticky rear tires and wide wheels, which will mean suspension and fender mods as well, you want 0º camber for max traction. Not to mention a heavier duty LSD, bushings, reinforcements etc.

If you're building a BMW drag car, either you have a huge budget, or a pipe dream.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:05 PM   #18
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LS1 people!!!!!!!!!

buy bigboost_e36's nice, black e36 shell. For what, i dunno, couple grand?

Put an LS1 with lots of "edlebrock" shit on it, i hate how you can get 100HP out of bolt ons. + have it put in

You're at below 18K right now now CAD already putting down nuts power.

then i dunno, do a widebody or something, i dont know how you're going to hold that power
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:09 PM   #19
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well my goal is 11s with a BMW M3
and i kno its gonna cost money but it wont be all at once
in time a long term project. what kinda fender work needs to be done
and how much is a heavy duty LSD goin for? and what kinda suspension setup is proper for something like this?
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:44 PM   #20
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well my goal is 11s with a BMW M3
and i kno its gonna cost money but it wont be all at once
in time a long term project. what kinda fender work needs to be done
and how much is a heavy duty LSD goin for? and what kinda suspension setup is proper for something like this?
For fender work, it really depends on what wheels and tires you decide to run, and your alignment geometry. Options run from reworking the outer fender lip for more clearance, grafting e46 fender lips, running fender flairs, widebody, or cutting up the inner fender.

A decent diff costs about $1400US+ depending on the gearing, % of lock, and other performance options (larger sump, gear polishing, etc).

For suspension setup, with that much power I'd recommend solid trailing arm bushings to elimiate toe angle deflection, adjustable lower trailing arms to dial out all the camber, rear subframe and diff mounting reinforcements and at least urethane bushings all around. Launching is particularly hard on the chassis, rear suspension and driveline. Regarding spring and damping rates I have no idea.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:42 AM   #21
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if i go BMW i wanna have a nice low 11s car
10s if possible but i think im startin to dream now. i know its gonna cost huge money but i can find a few of the things i need for cheap.
whats a good shop to take it too in the GTA that can get me all these parts and will know what im talkin about. possibly one that builds fast ET cars
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:01 PM   #22
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if i go BMW i wanna have a nice low 11s car
10s if possible but i think im startin to dream now. i know its gonna cost huge money but i can find a few of the things i need for cheap.
whats a good shop to take it too in the GTA that can get me all these parts and will know what im talkin about. possibly one that builds fast ET cars
I have yet to hear of any shops in the GTA that can build up a great Turbo charged setup for BMW's and if there is, someone please tell me.

When building a setup with 500whp+, I don't think you want to cheap out on your components. You might as well do it right the first time.

Based on what I know as of now, I would send my car to ICS Performance to have them build a setup that would reach my goal as they've been very experienced building and tuning the Inline-6 engines.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:34 PM   #23
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thanks for the compliment. 500 isnt a very hard to obtain goal on the s52 the problem is getting a proper tune down. with any amount of money things can be done. however consider that when you start to get over the 475rwhp mark you have to start looking into investing in upgrading and maintaining your drivetrain, chassis, and of course engine internals. a lower compression can be easily cheated using a thicker headgasket but if i were you id try to get some turbo pistons. and still use a decent HG with some ARP studs. drivetrain and chassis on the other hand will be the tricky part. the ZF tranny is known to hold a decent amount of power but i read about sparatic misshaps of them failing due to excessive power. you should also look into reinforcement of the rear end of the car as its going to take quite a beating with that amount of power especially if your aiming for 500+.

11's are very obtainable and yes 10s are a long shot but not to say it cant be done. im seeing the guys on BFC hitting 10s but again most of those guys are pushing well over 700hp . 10's are a whole new ballgame
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Old 11-16-2006, 09:46 AM   #24
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When building a setup with 500whp+, I don't think you want to cheap out on your components. You might as well do it right the first time.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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