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08-10-2006, 11:13 PM
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4th Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1,298
Car: 86 325es b25
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s52 or 19lb
Hey guys I am looking to upgrade my injectors and I was wondering should I go with 19lb injectors or ones out of an s52. I have heard that the s52 ones are better. Any opinions? Thanks
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08-11-2006, 07:03 PM
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: L'Ange Gardien, Qc CANADA
Posts: 1,102
Car: E30 Vert2.7iNitrous
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Did you not get some allready?
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08-11-2006, 07:14 PM
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: L'Ange Gardien, Qc CANADA
Posts: 1,102
Car: E30 Vert2.7iNitrous
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BTW if anyone is interested ..I have a set of M30 injectors for sale..
Oh and here is some pictures of a rebuilt on the way from Jesse's E30
M20b25
Being rebuilt also is a highly modified 34cc "i" head included a 272/272 11.5mm lift cam.
ENGINE BAY
ENGINE BLOCK with new timing belt, tensioner and water pump.
SLy
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08-11-2006, 07:46 PM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,583
Car: MK4 Jetta TDI
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I have a set of blue injectors from a 95 325i, dunno how much they are, but lemme know if your interested
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08-12-2006, 10:05 AM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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For what motor?
In a 2.5, either is overkill. M50/S50 17.5lb/hr's are a much better match.
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08-12-2006, 05:32 PM
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: L'Ange Gardien, Qc CANADA
Posts: 1,102
Car: E30 Vert2.7iNitrous
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There you go Jesse...More pictures of your E30..
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08-12-2006, 05:42 PM
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5th Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 1,055
Car: 90 535i - 87 325is
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sly just got your pm. Looking good. Too bad the other parts never showed up.
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08-21-2006, 11:16 PM
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La Klasic
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 45
Car: E30MtechII-90
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Need opinion and info.
what will the upgrade in the injetcors do ?
Anyone has the 17 lbs/S52 ?
PM how much ?
Any other things to change ? fuel regulator etc....
Thanks
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08-22-2006, 12:16 AM
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6th Gear Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 12,583
Car: MK4 Jetta TDI
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What injectors came with the M50 motors?
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08-22-2006, 07:34 AM
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Zee Frog.
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Gatineau, Québec
Posts: 2,315
Car: 328is
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Originally Posted by The Sly
ENGINE BLOCK with new timing belt, tensioner and water pump.
SLy
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So it'll be running on propane, eh?
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08-22-2006, 11:36 AM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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Originally Posted by Soldo
What injectors came with the M50 motors?
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Same as S50. 17.5lb.
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08-23-2006, 09:01 AM
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La Klasic
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 45
Car: E30MtechII-90
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too many questions needing answers from the PROs
What will the injectors do ?
What modifications are needed ?
How does you engine know you are dumping more fuel ? by the O2 sensor !
How does it adjust for that ?
What are the gains ?
Thanks for the help.
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08-23-2006, 09:56 PM
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Moderator/Event-Coordinator
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Stance
Posts: 12,608
Car: S54
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They spray more fuel.
Nothing. But injectors alone will only hurt power output.
It doesn't know. That's why it works.
It doesn't adjust, early Motronic isn't very adaptive.
Gains only if you maxed out the stock injectors with other mods.
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08-24-2006, 09:12 AM
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La Klasic
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Burlington
Posts: 45
Car: E30MtechII-90
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More confuse...
If you dump more fuel by swapping to larger flow injectors, you will run rich ! That will not produce more power .....unless you burn it.
To burn it, you need more O2 intake.....
How are you increasing your O2 intake ? I am not aware of any ways to increae O2 except turbo/supercharge/maybe increase thottle boar !! etc....
Your O2 sensor will detect rich mixture and cut back on fuel.....so even if you increase injector flow rate....the ECU will cut back as it detects rich.
Am I missing something ?
Please advise.
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08-24-2006, 01:59 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 87
Car: E30
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He might be also switching to m30 AFM and chipping?
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Originally Posted by sadi arbid
If you dump more fuel by swapping to larger flow injectors, you will run rich ! That will not produce more power .....unless you burn it.
To burn it, you need more O2 intake.....
How are you increasing your O2 intake ? I am not aware of any ways to increae O2 except turbo/supercharge/maybe increase thottle boar !! etc....
Your O2 sensor will detect rich mixture and cut back on fuel.....so even if you increase injector flow rate....the ECU will cut back as it detects rich.
Am I missing something ?
Please advise.
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He might be also switching to a an m30 AFM and chipping?
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