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Old 04-29-2006, 11:34 AM   #46
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Reading this thread is making me cry/scream/punch/kick/throw things.

I quit.
temper, temper... here i'll add fuel to your fire:...j/k

I drove from Brampton to North York with the new tires this a.m. I took it on the 401 and am pretty impressed with the smoothness and quietness (if that's even a word), I also immediately noticed that it's a lot easier to turn the steering wheel when making rights & lefts. The cold traction could be better for sure, but I got 'em squacking after the trip across the four-o-one. Overall, i'm happy with them, i was expecting worse.

Thanks for your input guys.
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Old 05-01-2006, 10:34 AM   #47
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glad your happy... but kumho makes a good tire.. regardless of what whaddup's had. Kumho, just ,I repeat just started making good tires.
so for his 17 years of tire buying experiance, and the brands he listed I come to the conclusion that out of 9 manufacturers, doesnt matter which one. His tires from any given manufacturer have not lasted more than 2 years.

Which just says you dont know tires,

Im driving on winters from 8 years ago. and they are still brand new and have 90% tread left.

Summers. I got 5 years out of Pilot sports. With regular 18 year old driving, peeling out, donuts, so on so forth.

Ive had Kumho Ecsta's on my 92 Civic. For 5 years. 2 with changeover's for winter. 3 without. 80% tread still left.

The store I work for is Majority kumho sales. Ive seen one 712 returned but it was on a civic with no camber kit. Never seen a kumho warrenty slip. I worked for Green and Ross. I had a weekday devoted to warrenty slips, for goodyear,michelin, bfg,uniroyal,bridgestone,firestone,continental,pir elli,toyo,

Regardless of manufacturer. a 17 and a pot hole do not mix.

I work for a tire place, for fun, I have a fulltime job the last thing I need to do is work saturday, but I do becuase doing tires is kinda fun. But I have real world experiance, of beltshifts, Extreme Tire wear, and almost anything that can happen to a tire. And theres hardly any kumho's on our scrap pile.. IF that doesnt speak a thousand words I dont know what will. From the poorest of the poor to the richest of the rich come to my store. Ive seen tires that you would expect from a third world. Also Jay's got a very good idea, of tires, Ive talked with him, I know he does his research, if you ask for his advice take it. Its probably more than accurate.

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Old 05-01-2006, 02:38 PM   #48
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so, which tires did ara325 go with in the end? the ones in the pic...

and where do you guys buy tires? i always just shop around Canadian Tire, Costco, Wal-Mart, Green+Ross, and Sam's Club.

i feel like i'm probably missing out on alot of cheaper places!
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:06 PM   #49
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I work for a place in malvern. He does the shopping for you, So you dont have to shop. He has 100% all name brand, with the exception of tires, made by a name brand manufacturer under a different name. Were in the ghetto, but still I did 5 brand new benz's on saturday...
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:25 PM   #50
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so, which tires did ara325 go with in the end? the ones in the pic...

and where do you guys buy tires? i always just shop around Canadian Tire, Costco, Wal-Mart, Green+Ross, and Sam's Club.

i feel like i'm probably missing out on alot of cheaper places!
Yes, I went with the ones in the pic...Yoko AVS es100.

All dealers can get the same tires. Most of them quote you the list/book price. Where the prices generally vary is in the installation and balancing. i.e. Steve's tire charges like $12-20 for installation, balancing, and valve stems. Other places include this in the price of the tire, but typically won't charge as much as places like Steve's.

Also, if you're shopping at the places you mentioned, you won't find the quality tires that the specialists carry. Tires really are one of those things that 'you get what you pay for', if you spend more, you'll get a better, longer lasting, better gripping, quieter etc tire.

Use the internet, and/or Mystical, and you'll learn a lot about the differences in tires, then go with what your gut (and wallet) tells you.
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:12 PM   #51
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[quote=EuroSpectacle]glad your happy... Which just says you dont know tires,

Im driving on winters from 8 years ago. and they are still brand new and have 90% tread left.


Right so youre the resident expert here, so let me get this straight, you still ride on rubber that's 8 years old regardless that its 90%.
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way to quote and butcher what I said.

KEY WORD BEING WINTERS, and Fyi, They are not Dry rotted or cracked, So that would be proper tire care would it not? 8 years and not one crack thats ****ing unblievable. If you treat them right, store them properly, and change them when they are supposed to be changed maybe you could get your super sick awesome tires to live forever.

No. Jay is the resident tire expert, and you both disregarded what he said. so lwhat does it matter what I say?



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Yes, I went with the ones in the pic...Yoko AVS es100.

All dealers can get the same tires. Most of them quote you the list/book price. Where the prices generally vary is in the installation and balancing. i.e. Steve's tire charges like $12-20 for installation, balancing, and valve stems. Other places include this in the price of the tire, but typically won't charge as much as places like Steve's.

Also, if you're shopping at the places you mentioned, you won't find the quality tires that the specialists carry. Tires really are one of those things that 'you get what you pay for', if you spend more, you'll get a better, longer lasting, better gripping, quieter etc tire.

Use the internet, and/or Mystical, and you'll learn a lot about the differences in tires, then go with what your gut (and wallet) tells you.
Ok that was a complete contradiction. ALL DEALERS CAN GET THE SAME TIRES-------BUT IF YOU SHOP AT THE PLACES I MENTIONED, YOU WONT FIND THE QUALITY TIRES THE SPECIALISTS CARRY??????????


Intermission(Jay I understand)

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Ok even my little tire store in the Ghetto can get any tire ever made, and so can all the others but its more why have $50,000 stock in michelins if your customer base cant handle it. You can order a tire and have it there in an hour..


Its what you as the consumer see'sand even what you dont see... hmmm Yokes or (lets say Nexen. You previously said, Im going with the yokes, becuase ive had them before, or blah blah its a recognizable brand. (thats not 100% accurate but you said something similar)

All Dealers are the same. Only Difference Is price and Service.

also another fyi. My place includes new valvestem, rimclean(grind and lube) and balancing for the price of the tires.

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Old 05-02-2006, 12:16 PM   #53
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When I said dealers, I meant specialists.

You say all dealers are the same, the only difference is price and service...so what's left? the colour of the walls in the shop? Price and service is what differetiates dealers so NO, they're not all the same!
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Originally I took over the ownership of those winter tires, at year 4. They were also cared for properly by the first owner (my uncle).


And what I meant was . All Dealers are the same regarding the tire makes and models they have in stock... Theres nothing saying a cheepo tire dealer cant have racks upon racks of pirelli, it just doesnt make economic sence but they can be ordered.


and to some people. The ill informed, the colour of the walls would have an impact. Where did you buy your tires again?
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:07 PM   #55
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I have been riding General Exclaim UHP's for over 1k now and they seem good for the money.

I picked them up off Tire Rack since they had good reviews and were DIRT cheap. They are apparently made by Continental and made in Germany, but I will see how they hold up. So far so good and they have amazing treadlife ratings. Much better than the Pirelli Vizzola garbage I had on before.

My winter Dunlop M3 16" rubber cost more than double the 18" General's, to put things into perspective.
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^ How much were they on Tirerack?
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:22 PM   #57
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I believe they were $80-85 US shipped - some kind of promo. The size was 225/40/R18.

This way I was able to keep the tire cost les than one half the cost of my new rims. "Quality" tires would have cost more than $200 US each. Buying locally would have been pushing $300 CDN each.
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