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Old 04-27-2006, 10:50 AM   #16
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They suck in the wet, they're loud, they wear fast, and they ride hard.

On the good side, they're sticky in the dry and have great response.

Overall, there are much better choices. And yeah the A520's rocked back in the day.

Exactly what I would have said. Dry response is good, but the tread wear will turn you off of them.
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:08 AM   #17
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How about the tire General Exclaim UHP? Anyone tried or have feedback.
It rank by comparison and write up in reviews speak highly of it, but ive never really heard of them.

Or Vredestein Sport Trac 2 Tires? Really curious about those also.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:12 PM   #18
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712's when are noisy and even noisier when they are wearing out. Get some earplugs if you intend on driving on the highway with them.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:35 PM   #19
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712's really aren't that bad. Internet chatter seems to convince people otherwise.
take my car for a spin. 50% 712's in back, you'll disagree soon

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They suck in the wet, they're loud, they wear fast, and they ride hard.
i have yoko EVS100's in front. Since they're in front, i can't really say too much about them, except they're damn quiet, seem to have a solid sidewall and are responsive to steering input
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:21 PM   #20
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take my car for a spin. 50% 712's in back, you'll disagree soon


i have yoko EVS100's in front. Since they're in front, i can't really say too much about them, except they're damn quiet, seem to have a solid sidewall and are responsive to steering input
Do they stick well when making hard right/left turns without giving you the feeling that "i might lose it soon"?
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:23 PM   #21
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The feeling is that you will lose it soon, pretty weak sidewalls IMHO
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:27 PM   #22
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Well here's a write-up on them. Yokohama seems pretty confident with the highest possible rating for traction & temperature, as well as a treadwear rating of 280. Plus, they're offering a 30 day money-back guarantee.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/avses100.pdf
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:28 PM   #23
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Yokohama>Kumho any day anytime

I used to have A520's a long while back, those were so sticky
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Yokohama>Kumho any day anytime
niiiiiiiiiiiice, that's what 'm talkin' 'bout!
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How about the tire General Exclaim UHP? Anyone tried or have feedback.
It rank by comparison and write up in reviews speak highly of it, but ive never really heard of them.

Or Vredestein Sport Trac 2 Tires? Really curious about those also.
The Generals are getting pretty good reviews, but there are better choices.

No idea on the Vredestein's.
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take my car for a spin. 50% 712's in back, you'll disagree soon
I had 225/45/16 712's on for 2 months last fall, at 4/32nds. They were great tires, and real on-track testing data shows them to be very capable.
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:11 PM   #27
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Yokohama>Kumho any day anytime

I used to have A520's a long while back, those were so sticky
I hate it when people generalize like that.

Every damn tire company that makes an excellent tire makes a horrible one too. There is no such thing as a "good" company or a "bad" company, they all have their strong products and their weak products.

And A520's kicked ass. ES100's don't.
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:13 PM   #28
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Well here's a write-up on them. Yokohama seems pretty confident with the highest possible rating for traction & temperature, as well as a treadwear rating of 280. Plus, they're offering a 30 day money-back guarantee.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/avses100.pdf
Any tire that doesn't have AA and A traction and temperature ratings today is complete garbage, those tests are outdated by about 15 years.

Treadwear rating is a completely fictional figure dreamed up by manufacturers. It means absolutely nothing in the real world.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:33 PM   #29
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So, what's the traction rating on the ES100's?...they're just saying highest possible. I've called about 5-6 tire places and not one of them has recommended the Kumho's over the Yok's. As a matter of fact, they're all saying that the es100's are a great tire for the price...of course they want to make a sale too, but they could be pitching me other tires as well.

I know that better tires exist (obviously), but i'm sick and tired of wasting a lot of money on tires that only last a couple seasons max...if that. And finding 225/45/16 used is like looking for a needle in a haystsack.

If there's other good tires you guys can think of in the same range as the above, please let me know...i'd like to check them out.
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try finding 235/40/18's. my tires cost at least 200$ each for cheapies, PS2's would be like 2K for 4
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