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Old 03-15-2006, 06:06 PM   #16
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what does IIRC mean?
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:12 PM   #17
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:13 PM   #18
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ohh smooth..
I need new pads, And If these pads turn out to be good, we should get a group buy!
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:07 PM   #19
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^ Depending on the deal we got, id likely be in.

Anyones opinions on PBR also tho? Deluxe, Metal Master or Ceramic.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:07 AM   #20
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I've had Deluxes for a while

they are alright. Good in rain (wet) but not very good in cold temperatures (need to warm them up a bit before they start biting)
So the pattern is saw with them is the following: when i just start driving, after car sitting overnight, they bite like crazy for first couple of pedal pushings. Then they bite sucky. Then they start biting good again after two or three good brake pedal pushings.
I attribute the initial great bite to the mosture that accumulated on the rotors overnight, but i coud be wrong.

it's the only ones i had on the car so cannot really compare to anything.

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Old 03-16-2006, 02:24 PM   #21
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The HPS grab like OEM cold, but drive hard, and they grip like hell!! The harder you push them, the harder they stop. Had a nice drive through the forks sunday after I finished rebuilding my brakes.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:12 PM   #22
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^^ so you put HPS's right after rebuilding your brakes? reason i am asking is i am trying to figure out if rebuilding the brakes actually makes difference in feel/performance of the brakes and not just preventative maintenance

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Old 03-16-2006, 04:30 PM   #23
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I did a lot at once. Rebuilt brakes, new rotors, new pads, stainless steel lines, super blue fluid. All has led to much better pedal feel.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:35 PM   #24
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Coincidence. I just did my front pads/rotors last weekend, to match the already rear Hawk HPS and blank rotor combo.

The difference in braking is AMAZING. I had Pagid pads, and I always hated them; every time I braked from 180+ (which is every day in the summer for me, haha) they would glaze over by the time I was down to legal speeds, basically falling on their face and crying for mama. I was actually really scared it wasn't the pads and something else was wrong, but the Hawks solved everything.

Pedal feel, initial bite, heat capacity, everything is so much better. And I didn't do any other brake service, either.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:37 PM   #25
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Yup, and that's just their street pad. BTW, when is the last time you changed your fluid Jay? It's a good habit to change it once every two years, and bleed periodically.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:37 PM   #26
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Axxe don't you find them to leave a lot of brake dust?
Alan, Terry had HP+ pads on that car. Very different pad, those dust (and make noise) like a bitch. Awesome on a track though.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:38 PM   #27
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Yup, and that's just their street pad. BTW, when is the last time you changed your fluid Jay? It's a good habit to change it once every two years, and bleed periodically.
Haha, it's been WAY too long.

I'm going 5.1 before track season.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:40 PM   #28
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Dammit, now i gotta spend $200 on pads, plus another $100+ on front rotors.

x2. (both cars)
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:42 PM   #29
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i say gb on the pads......**** man i need summer tires soon
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:58 PM   #30
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^ I'd be in forsure on a GB for Hawk HPS, I bet Zimmie would be too.
We should see what kinda group we can get together...
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