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Old 03-11-2006, 07:59 PM   #16
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The s54 motor is no where the same as a s52, the s52 is the same as a M50 and can be done in a garage at home..


The s54 would be a excellent swap into a e36 but would require almost all the factory wiring to run it using the factory s54 DME, Ask JAZZ M, he knows.
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Old 03-12-2006, 11:50 PM   #17
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hmmm maybe I should buy this?

hesitant though, I don't know who the motor is from, and why the owner wouldn't put it in and sell it instead.

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Old 03-13-2006, 08:20 AM   #18
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hmmm maybe I should buy this?

hesitant though, I don't know who the motor is from, and why the owner wouldn't put it in and sell it instead.
Well first thing you have to understand is that early S54 motors had connecting rod bearing failures. If its a 2001-2003 motor than you have to take that into consideration and know the milage and service history of the motor.

With regards to the wiring, you will need a complete S54 wire loom, DME, EWS, electronic FPR, drive by wire gas pedal and ignition key at minimum to get ths working. Don't forget, the S54 even came with an oil cooler and I doubt a stand alone engine will include it as well. You'll encounter a lot of these little unforseen expences.

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Old 03-13-2006, 09:33 AM   #19
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hmmm maybe I should buy this?

hesitant though, I don't know who the motor is from, and why the owner wouldn't put it in and sell it instead.


even im not clear as to why he didnt put it in, i know he wanted to find a wiring harness and couldnt (first delay) but after that i really cant say. all i know is the guy is a little lazy on selling it, and autotrend does not want it sitting there any longer than it has, like i said Mark give Don a call , he will be able to answer some questions for you, or get you in contact with the owner of the engine.
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:11 PM   #20
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Well first thing you have to understand is that early S54 motors had connecting rod bearing failures. If its a 2001-2003 motor than you have to take that into consideration and know the milage and service history of the motor.

With regards to the wiring, you will need a complete S54 wire loom, DME, EWS, electronic FPR, drive by wire gas pedal and ignition key at minimum to get ths working. Don't forget, the S54 even came with an oil cooler and I doubt a stand alone engine will include it as well. You'll encounter a lot of these little unforseen expences.

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I have an 04 ZHP... mine came standard with Drive by wire throttle, and maybe some other things you listed... who knows till I try it.

I will consider this definatly... but it sounds like more of a pain then enjoyment.... I could always just upgrade my current motor with bolt on's... or even get it stroked/ ported and polished, and upgrade the internals?
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Old 03-13-2006, 12:20 PM   #21
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I have an 04 ZHP... mine came standard with Drive by wire throttle, and maybe some other things you listed... who knows till I try it.

I will consider this definatly... but it sounds like more of a pain then enjoyment.... I could always just upgrade my current motor with bolt on's... or even get it stroked/ ported and polished, and upgrade the internals?

With a ZHP, you might as well just S/C it and save yourself the conversion time and hassle. Will easily pump out 300 at the wheels with a S/C and if you ever want to sell the car, just remove it and no one is the wiser. try selling a ZHP with an M3 conversion and your going to be in trouble, especially if you try and trade it in because a dealer will give you nothing for a BMW that has that kind of conversion!!!!
However, if you have an E36.... that would be one hell of a sweet conversion. Keep the thing reasonably quiet and can you say Sleep
With this conversion, I would go with stand-alone cuz they say its hards to wire this setup into an E36. and that way you don't have to worry about the security stuff like have the coded keys, etc, especially since all you have is the mechanical...no wiring.
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the problem with stand alone management systems is dual vanos. They simply disable it and tune it for the top end. Its good for a dedicated racecar which is intended to stay above 5000 rpm all day long but not good for a daily driver.

That is why if you do decide on this type of conversion why you need to got the stock ECU route.

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Old 03-13-2006, 12:54 PM   #23
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What about just the tranny? Will it bolt up to an e36 i6 engine? What about leaver/linkage location? Driveshaft? A 6-speed would be a nice upgrade...
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the problem with stand alone management systems is dual vanos. They simply disable it and tune it for the top end. Its good for a dedicated racecar which is intended to stay above 5000 rpm all day long but not good for a daily driver.

That is why if you do decide on this type of conversion why you need to got the stock ECU route.

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LOL... so make it a dedicated racer!!!!..go big or go home!!!! J/K. i see what your saying but this engine doesn't have wiring or all the extra stuff, so it would be really hard to get it running with stock ECU. First of all, no keys or ignition means the car won't start because of the security system. I don't know if this can be bypassed, but I don't think it can. Also, where are you going to find a harness and accessories like teh fly by wire accelorator actuator. That is what makes this a hard conversion....way too many headaches IMO
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What about just the tranny? Will it bolt up to an e36 i6 engine? What about leaver/linkage location? Driveshaft? A 6-speed would be a nice upgrade...
Yes, it'll bolt right up to the ZF 5sp. This is what it came with in the 2001 and 2002 M roadster/coupe cars.

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Tom, didn't sthomas's 93 come with a getrag, and not a ZF?
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Because I assume you are a car enthusiast and being one you will always want more
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