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Old 01-18-2006, 05:40 PM   #16
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If you want a factory look, the get the sunglass holder setup, it looks stock with VDO vision gauges. Even the backlight is the same amber as the rest of the gauges.

Why people get gauges? The factory coolant temp gauge sucks, the needle point straight up has a variance of like 50コF. Oil temp is a pretty important gauge, especially if you like to drive hard in the winter. Coolant temp is not a sign of engine operating temperature. Oil pressure is also very important to those of use who like to drive spirited, the last thing you want to do is starve the oil pump under hard corner, that gauge will let you know if/when it's happening. That's the setup I plan to get, oil temp, pressure, coolant temp.
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Old 01-18-2006, 06:24 PM   #17
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If you want a factory look, the get the sunglass holder setup, it looks stock with VDO vision gauges. Even the backlight is the same amber as the rest of the gauges.

Why people get gauges? The factory coolant temp gauge sucks, the needle point straight up has a variance of like 50コF. Oil temp is a pretty important gauge, especially if you like to drive hard in the winter. Coolant temp is not a sign of engine operating temperature. Oil pressure is also very important to those of use who like to drive spirited, the last thing you want to do is starve the oil pump under hard corner, that gauge will let you know if/when it's happening. That's the setup I plan to get, oil temp, pressure, coolant temp.
Not to mention voltage is important for idiots like me who have so many electronic mods in their vehicle and want to make sure the alternator isn't getting sucked too hard, or that they don't get stuck with a dead battery at a drive-in theatre and stuff. It's happened before.
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:09 PM   #18
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If you want a factory look, the get the sunglass holder setup, it looks stock with VDO vision gauges. Even the backlight is the same amber as the rest of the gauges.

Why people get gauges? The factory coolant temp gauge sucks, the needle point straight up has a variance of like 50コF. Oil temp is a pretty important gauge, especially if you like to drive hard in the winter. Coolant temp is not a sign of engine operating temperature. Oil pressure is also very important to those of use who like to drive spirited, the last thing you want to do is starve the oil pump under hard corner, that gauge will let you know if/when it's happening. That's the setup I plan to get, oil temp, pressure, coolant temp.
thats exaclty what I wanna get Oil Temp and Pressure, Figured I could live with the shitty factory water temp,
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I need boost, air/fuel, oil temp, oil pressure
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:27 PM   #20
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why is air/fuel important? and is it only important to you, or should it be to everyone?

by the way Justin, do u know how much that thing costs by VDO? it looks amazing.
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why is air/fuel important? and is it only important to you, or should it be to everyone?

by the way Justin, do u know how much that thing costs by VDO? it looks amazing.
$180 USD.
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I don't understand why a lot of people get air/fuel gauges to tell you the truth. First off unless you get a wide band they suck, plus if you're running lean, what are you going to do, richen the mixture on the side of the road somehow?

Even if you have a standalone and a laptop at your disposal, it's something that should be done on a dyno.

Even worse are people who buy A/F gauges for their stock engines with no tuning. I could think of a 100 other things I'd rather spend money on.
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I don't understand why a lot of people get air/fuel gauges to tell you the truth. First off unless you get a wide band they suck, plus if you're running lean, what are you going to do, richen the mixture on the side of the road somehow?

Even if you have a standalone and a laptop at your disposal, it's something that should be done on a dyno.

Even worse are people who buy A/F gauges for their stock engines with no tuning. I could think of a 100 other things I'd rather spend money on.
because some of us have a S-AFC II.
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:51 PM   #24
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Ok so say i get oil temp, pressure, coolant temp guages, how hard are these to wire up to work?
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:59 PM   #26
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^I'm wondering as well. I guess the only place to get a set would be BMP?...
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I don't understand why a lot of people get air/fuel gauges to tell you the truth. First off unless you get a wide band they suck, plus if you're running lean, what are you going to do, richen the mixture on the side of the road somehow?

Even if you have a standalone and a laptop at your disposal, it's something that should be done on a dyno.
without wideband they just pulse back & forth give a less accurate reading.

I actualy can Richen my fuel on the fly(while driving even) with my not even top of the line fuel controller.
it's a piggy back system that adds fuel (extra injectors) into the intake before the Throttle body

with any type of boost you want to know if your lean (even if its not the best reading/ wideband)
running lean boosted is a good way to melt pistons, etc/
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:37 PM   #28
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with any type of boost you want to know if your lean (even if its not the best reading/ wideband)
running lean boosted is a good way to melt pistons, etc/
On a turbo car you can also just reduce the boost, what are you going to do with a blower?
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:38 PM   #29
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I came to the same conclusion as someone did earlier that without a wideband o2 the a/f guage is useless. I went with exhaust temp instead. I think if I ever do a supercharger project again I'll spend the money for a wideband 02 so I can tinker with tuning on my own. (I had the smt-6 piggy back and it would have been nice to do a little tinkering with the a/f in my driveway )

I didn't have a permanent boost guage but instead used my hand held vaccume/boost guage when needed.

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Old 01-19-2006, 01:50 AM   #30
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Justin, what is S-AFC II?
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