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Old 01-17-2006, 05:11 PM   #46
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of course. specially the states.. they dont even talk to Cuba... can u even take a boat or a plane from the states legally?

hating communism in the states is like fighting the war in iraq for keeping the american currency victorious over the rest of the world (american dollar being protected by war was a key point in that article in case you people didn't read it - it was long). i wonder if that made any sense.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:21 PM   #47
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hating communism in the states is like fighting the war in iraq for keeping the american currency victorious over the rest of the world (american dollar being protected by war was a key point in that article in case you people didn't read it - it was long). i wonder if that made any sense.
Thats old news really.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:52 PM   #48
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you guys debate on and on.. the USA sucks, I want them to die blah blah blah.. who cares. nothing is going to happen. im still enjoying my food, and driving around burning gasoline.


USA is to smart to be beat at its own game by a bunch of amatuers (Iran, China, Russia). The USA invented the whole study of economics, if you think they dont know whats going on and how to play their cards right, then I think you are gravely mistaken.

too bad you're not arguing with Miguel, lol, but i agree with most of your above statement
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:25 PM   #49
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i did a search on google.. came up pretty blank regarding deaths and MIR program.
Same here but I know what I saw. Maybe I'll do an extensive search tomorrow morn.
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Lets not compare Commie USSR to Democratic USA here, this is not what this thread about.
You all been brainwashed that communism is evil, we were all brainwashed capitalism is evil
When did I compare Commie USSR to Democratic USA? I simply said that your voice is heard in a democracy where it isn't in communism.

You obviously think that I totally agree with capitalism...wrong! Don't assume you know what my preferences are.

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:30 PM   #50
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Same here but I know what I saw. Maybe I'll do an extensive search tomorrow morn.

When did I compare Commie USSR to Democratic USA? I simply said that your voice is heard in a democracy where it isn't in communism.

You obviously think that I totally agree with capitalism...wrong! Don't assume you know what my preferences are.

sorry, I didn't mean to post in such a way to come off as not believeing you... I just couldn't find anything. Dont forget these people are experts at covering up.

I beleive there was an incident with one of the apollo capsules it caught fire killed all austronauts on boards and this was when they where just doing pre tests before the actual launch date.. Suposedly that was covered up really well and only in the last few years has it been uncovered.
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Old 01-17-2006, 09:57 PM   #51
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The US Army is right next door in Iraq, wont take long after Iraq stabilizes that they will stay in the area and eventually move into Iran. The US has no intention of removing the huge army they accumulated. Look for them to stay there for at least another decade.
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:26 PM   #52
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The USA and European countries distabilzed the USSR currency which practically made the money worthless on the international market,USSR suffered by HUGE inflation on national products which of course stirred the pot for unrest..yes the USSR spent huge dollars on the arm race and guess who was forcing the issue (weapons strength),the good old USA.It was a race they could not have won due to the USA influential banking community and the right wing congress.USSR still has not recovered from that disaster but with extremely close relations with China they are again a huge threat towards the USA,not in weapons but with China massive economic unstoppable machine and its huge thirst for oil.
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Old 01-17-2006, 11:19 PM   #53
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The USA and European countries distabilzed the USSR currency which practically made the money worthless on the international market,USSR suffered by HUGE inflation on national products which of course stirred the pot for unrest..yes the USSR spent huge dollars on the arm race and guess who was forcing the issue (weapons strength),the good old USA.It was a race they could not have won due to the USA influential banking community and the right wing congress.USSR still has not recovered from that disaster but with extremely close relations with China they are again a huge threat towards the USA,not in weapons but with China massive economic unstoppable machine and its huge thirst for oil.
USSR suffered a HUGE inflation after it became Russia.
And the major reason of it, were not western countries, but that Russia changed from Communist country to Capitalist.
What happened is a major overhaul of the whole country. Russia had to start all over again. All factories, appartments, shops, everything had to become private. People had to buy out their appartments, all business needed to find new owners, etc. Everything had to be done from scratch.
Since the whole economy was new to a lot of people, people didnt know what to do and how banks worked, there was a lot of fraud going on.
Just look at some of the Russian billionaires, at the age of 22-25 they became CEOs of major oil, gas companies which is unheard of here.
Also there was no such thing as IRS in USSR, sinces taxes were paid by government, taxes were dedacted automatically. With the new economy, people had to pay taxes themselves. There was no police at the begining who would control that and alot of people didnt pay any taxes.

Russia is still not recovered from the whole deal, but you gotta look at Russia as a 15 year old country. They still have to learn alot how to run the country.


One thing that is good about Russia, is that there are tonns of undiscovered businesses in there. And it is easy to starts business in there with least ammount of competition for someone from a Western country.
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Old 01-18-2006, 12:37 AM   #54
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Hi all, newer to the site and I came across this thread.

I can't say I agree or disagree with all that is going on in this world but have some links that various people have sent me that make you think twice.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...20890224991194

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...23&q=THE+GREAT
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Check this out approx 1 hr each...explains everything.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=MONEY+MASTERS

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=MONEY+MASTERS

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=MONEY+MASTERS
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Old 01-18-2006, 10:20 AM   #55
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sorry, I didn't mean to post in such a way to come off as not believeing you... I just couldn't find anything. Dont forget these people are experts at covering up...
That's fine...you are right to question me. I couldn't find anything either. If I get time on lunch...I'll look more because there was absolutely nothing online.
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Old 01-18-2006, 12:20 PM   #56
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meh..i have enough buckshot shells to take out all of iran and half of china..bring it.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:51 PM   #57
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im sure you do felix, im sure you do.
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Old 01-18-2006, 11:04 PM   #58
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meh..i have enough buckshot shells to take out all of iran and half of china..bring it.

Bring it dont sing it
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Old 01-19-2006, 12:00 AM   #59
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One thing that is good about Russia, is that there are tonns of undiscovered businesses in there. And it is easy to starts business in there with least ammount of competition for someone from a Western country.

Are you kidding me? I've personally known people that have started businesses in Russia, and when they weren't willing to share profits with the Russian mofia, they were politely ''asked'' to leave the country or else
So the reason for your stated 'least ammount (spelling error only one 'm' in amount) of competition' is due to most people realizing it's too dangerous.
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Are you kidding me? I've personally known people that have started businesses in Russia, and when they weren't willing to share profits with the Russian mofia, they were politely ''asked'' to leave the country or else
So the reason for your stated 'least ammount (spelling error only one 'm' in amount) of competition' is due to most people realizing it's too dangerous.

Cosider protection, as some kind of tax.
I know people that run business' there right now, and its all good.
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