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Old 01-15-2006, 12:04 PM   #16
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yeah that was another idea i was considering m3 ball joints, are they a direct fit over my 328i ones?

need to do this soon, its killing me that i cant drive faster then 80mph (120kmph i believe) with out vibration.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:31 PM   #17
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need to do this soon, its killing me that i cant drive faster then 80mph (120kmph i believe) with out vibration.
uh, that's not your ball joints.
who told you to replace your ball joints because of vibration?

in fact, if you're getting steering wheel vibration, your ball joints are in pretty darn good shape still. it's more likely that your wheels are not balanced, or a rim is bent.
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Old 01-15-2006, 06:35 PM   #18
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[quote=spooner_dee]yeah that was another idea i was considering m3 ball joints, are they a direct fit over my 328i ones?[quote]

From what I remember, they fit perfectly. There's only one thing you have to remember... The non-m have the hole in the middle, and the hole in the m version is off center... So you have to make sure the hole is in the right spot (can't remember if its closer to the front of the car or the back). I believe this affects your camber?

A tech explained it to me 2 years ago and I can't fully remember...
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:00 AM   #19
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The Meyle metal ones apparently are not hardened, and fail just as easily (if not more so) than the OE one. Stick with OEM, or Lemforder brand.
I've got about 25K in 15 months on my Meyle ball joints now with absolutely no problems. I'll be in for service this morning, so I'll ask them to take a quick look at them and update your people on their condition.
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Old 01-16-2006, 07:04 AM   #20
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I've got about 25K in 15 months on my Meyle ball joints now with absolutely no problems. I'll be in for service this morning, so I'll ask them to take a quick look at them and update your people on their condition.
Note that though there can be some play with the Meyle ball joints, it will be much stiffer than the play with stock ball joints.. so you really have to rock that wheel to notice it. More noticable when driving. Also visually inspect them..
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:34 AM   #21
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justin, as for the vibration. my car is fine till i reach about 120km and if im strait no prob, but if i turn the wheel just slightly to the right like a hair it vibrates, if i turn it more then it goes away. if i turn to the left no problem. thats what i figured it was my ball joints. Being that they fail often in bmw's

no matter how fast i go, its smooth till i turn just slightly to the right. lol i have posted about this b4 and the only other thing i could think of was ball joints. I had the control arm bushings replaced thinking it was that, but it wasn't
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:57 AM   #22
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justin, as for the vibration. my car is fine till i reach about 120km and if im strait no prob, but if i turn the wheel just slightly to the right like a hair it vibrates, if i turn it more then it goes away. if i turn to the left no problem. thats what i figured it was my ball joints. Being that they fail often in bmw's

no matter how fast i go, its smooth till i turn just slightly to the right. lol i have posted about this b4 and the only other thing i could think of was ball joints. I had the control arm bushings replaced thinking it was that, but it wasn't
Double check... that really doesn't sound like a ball joint problem. If your ball joints are solid, they will transfer the wheel vibration to the steering wheel. If they're shot, then the wheels can vibrate or turn slightly and this would not be felt in the steering wheel. Likewise, since the wheels can turn slightly independantly, the car may drift randomly left or right, even though the steering wheel is straight.

In your case, I still say it's one of your wheels that is not balanced properly, or a bent rim. Check that our first... most shops will charge $5 to mount your tire on the balancer and let you know if it's vibrating or not. Of course you can also try rotating your front/rear tires to see if this makes a difference as well.

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Old 01-16-2006, 01:13 PM   #23
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justin, as for the vibration. my car is fine till i reach about 120km and if im strait no prob, but if i turn the wheel just slightly to the right like a hair it vibrates, if i turn it more then it goes away. if i turn to the left no problem. thats what i figured it was my ball joints. Being that they fail often in bmw's

no matter how fast i go, its smooth till i turn just slightly to the right. lol i have posted about this b4 and the only other thing i could think of was ball joints. I had the control arm bushings replaced thinking it was that, but it wasn't
What about your tie-rod ends? Any play in them?

Next time you're out on the highway, try lightly pressing on the brakes when you feel the vibration. If the vibe goes away, have a real good look at your tie-rod ends (both inner & outer) for any play, and replace if necessary. If not, check the lateral run out on your rotors - they may be slightly warped.

I could be totally wrong, but that's what I'd be checking if there's nothing wrong with the wheels. Definately double check your wheels though, like Justin's recommending - he's giving sound advice!
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:28 PM   #24
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What about your tie-rod ends? Any play in them?

Next time you're out on the highway, try lightly pressing on the brakes when you feel the vibration. If the vibe goes away, have a real good look at your tie-rod ends (both inner & outer) for any play, and replace if necessary. If not, check the lateral run out on your rotors - they may be slightly warped.

I could be totally wrong, but that's what I'd be checking if there's nothing wrong with the wheels. Definately double check your wheels though, like Justin's recommending - he's giving sound advice!
Good point. If the tie rod ends are dying, there will be some vibrations felt only while turning. When the tie rod ends are dying you'll notice more wear on the inside of your front tires. So if they're not wearing evenly, then check this out too.
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Thumbs up I asked Steve at Bavarian Motors and.....

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Note that though there can be some play with the Meyle ball joints, it will be much stiffer than the play with stock ball joints.. so you really have to rock that wheel to notice it. More noticable when driving. Also visually inspect them..

he swears by the Meyle solid ball joints.....BTW, mine are still in mint condition...so I'm happy with them.
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Old 01-16-2006, 10:18 PM   #26
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he swears by the Meyle solid ball joints.....BTW, mine are still in mint condition...so I'm happy with them.
Yup, my mechanic swears by them as well. A lot of people do. Other's won't touch Meyle with a 10 foot pole.

Failed Meyle Parts, from ONE Toronto OE/OEM parts retailer (whose name I will keep anonymous). My ball joints are somewhere on that rack too. (ball joints were not bought from this retailer though... they were bought from a reputable mechanic.)
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Find this debate weird. My drivers ball joint (oem original according to records) passenger replaced last year (oem with a ripped boot).
36 bucks at the stealers and now have 180,000K on my beast?
I don't see the issue with BMW's and bad ball joints.
If they were replaced previous owners records from <30,00K never recorded the bill. To add I drive the sh*t out of it on Qubec sh*t roads.....
For thoues who havn't driven here.... I have installed a skid plate that is now at 1/3 weare after only 3 years.
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Old 01-17-2006, 08:21 PM   #28
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alright ill try a tire rotation maybe this weekend, see if it helps. Now that i think about it, when i got new tires when i first bought the car, i believe it went away, then had my tires rotated and it came back, maybe a bent rim. or just shatty balencing. i will try the rotation and post up the end results. thanks for the info guys. if its still there ill have my mechanic look at my tie rods.
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justin, as for the vibration. my car is fine till i reach about 120km and if im strait no prob, but if i turn the wheel just slightly to the right like a hair it vibrates, if i turn it more then it goes away. if i turn to the left no problem. thats what i figured it was my ball joints. Being that they fail often in bmw's

no matter how fast i go, its smooth till i turn just slightly to the right. lol i have posted about this b4 and the only other thing i could think of was ball joints. I had the control arm bushings replaced thinking it was that, but it wasn't
I had the same thing at 80kph and then again at 120kph, and when I replaced my ball joints with the Meyle ball joints, the problem disappeared. ...needed another alignment though, because someone had aligned the car with bad ball joints somehow bastard
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if it turns out to be the tie rod ends is that a job one can do at home? or would i need to take it to a garage have it done and get it aligned?
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