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Old 12-17-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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Tires

Currently, I have 16" Goodyear RSA's on my e46, but in the snow they really suck. In the summer they handle pretty good and offer a nice quiet ride, but tend to tramline a lot. Can you guys pls recommend a good, nice riding tire for winter and a good performance tire for summer?

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Old 12-17-2005, 04:14 PM   #2
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Those tires are just plain bad all around, actually. You'll be amazed once you get some quality rubber on your E46.

Lots of winter discussion in the past few weeks, just search this section (where I'm moving this thread, try to look down next time).

For summer, it depends on what you prioritize. Rate these in order of priority, top to bottom:
Treadwear
Ride
Wet traction
Dry traction
Price
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:30 AM   #3
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Thanks for the advice.. Just wondering, if I wanted to go 17" rims for the summer, would they fit no problem on my car, or would special holes need to be drilled?
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:08 PM   #4
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Yea you need to drill special speed holes so that you can go faster with bigger rims







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Special holes? What type of special holes?
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:47 PM   #5
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:34 PM   #6
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Thanks for the advice.. Just wondering, if I wanted to go 17" rims for the summer, would they fit no problem on my car, or would special holes need to be drilled?

You would need to buy 17"s that fit your car's bolt pattern. I believe the bolt pattern for the e46 is 5X120 and you would have to make sure the offset is correct. I have no idea what the offset is for the e46 so you'll have to do some research. Read these article on tirerack so you can get he basic idea of what is needed in rim fitment.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/index.jsp
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:22 PM   #7
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Yea you need to drill special speed holes so that you can go faster with bigger rims







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Special holes? What type of special holes?
I dunno, how do bigger rims fit if the stock was 16? Sorry, I dont know anything bout cars
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:17 PM   #8
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I dunno, how do bigger rims fit if the stock was 16? Sorry, I dont know anything bout cars
The overall circumference of the wheel remains more or less the same. (+/- 2%).

Although the rim size gets bigger, the profile/sidewall of the tires gets slimmer. So the overall wheel size is still the same. The bigger the rim, the less cushion on the tires.

Purchase rims that are designed to fit your e46 bolt pattern.

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Old 12-19-2005, 09:42 AM   #9
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The Original on the e46 is 205/55-16
(I'm sure that is true for the 325i, but should be the same for a 320i, but steel wheels)

You can also go,
225/45-17 (which are standard on Sport package cars)

Since the car didn't originally come with 17", your spedo would be off by 0.4% if you go with 17" wheels. If you are going 60mph, you are actually going 60.2mph. Not a big difference. Go for it!

Starting from the original size, you can see what tire sizes fit your car. You want to get the smallest % difference as possible.
Try this link out: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html

For the winter, stick with 16”, and get the thinnest tire possible. Don’t put 225 tires. Go with a 205 tire.

What I would recommend is:

Put snows on your current 16" rims. Toss the Goodyears.. garbage.

For the summer, pick up 17" Rims with summer tires and you'll have a great ride. Good winter traction, and good summer fun! This would be the cheapest option for you.
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Thanks a lot, your post was very helpful.

Would the ride quality on the 225/45-17 be much worse? How about a 40 profile?
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Given the same tire, it would be noticeable. However tires can wildly change ride quality, so if you get less aggressive rubber it will actually ride softer.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:42 PM   #12
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Thanks a lot, your post was very helpful.

Would the ride quality on the 225/45-17 be much worse? How about a 40 profile?
To run 40 series tires and 17" rims, you would probably need 245/40-17 tires to keep the similar size of 225/45-17.

I think 245/40-17 might be too wide for the car... rubbing???

I like my 225/45-17 tires over my 205/55-16 tires. Ride quality is good, but firm.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:07 PM   #13
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The Original on the e46 is 205/55-16
(I'm sure that is true for the 325i, but should be the same for a 320i, but steel wheels)
Just to add to this... My 320i (2001) has 195/65/R15s as stock...
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I think that if you want a good performance setup that is not too aggressive, go with the E46 330i ZSP setup. 17 inch rims. that are 225-45-17 in the front and 245-45-17 in the rear. This setup looks good with the wide tires in the back and gives you better handling and traction as well. Only problem is that rubber is expensive and you can't rotate your tires back to front, so if you wear out the backs quickly, you can't put them in the front. Regardless of what you do, by going to a bigger rim, you will get a stiffer ride. Also, for summer tires, I recommend Michelin Pilot Sports.... thats my summer rubber choice. Not a big fan of Goodyear at all. Hope this helps
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