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Old 12-13-2005, 10:01 AM   #1
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Post widebody for an e30

Hey peopes

I have an M50 swap into my e30 in the works, and would like to know if anyone else had figured out some kind of widebody to accomodate thicker rear rims/tires. I am thinking along the line of cutting out the original fenders and rivetting wider fenders on their place.

Anyone done this or knows anyone specializing in this kind of thing?

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Old 12-13-2005, 10:11 AM   #2
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only thing i can think of is the E30 M3 fenders... other than that it just looks ghey imo.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:11 AM   #3
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Well, with stock metal you can get 225s back there easily, and 245s if you get the offset right.

I can't see an NA M50 breaking either of those loose very easily. How much work is done to it?
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:12 AM   #4
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well they have this as well.

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These fender flares are designed to be installed using exposed rivets or screws which eliminates the need for body work or to blend paint. They look great (check out BMP's E30) and are really easy to install and inexpensive. They also fit the E21 ('77-'83 320i). Done carefully repainting is not necessary. The original fender lips are normally cut away to allow larger wheels/tires. After all that's the whole point of fender flares. Flares are shipped larger (longer) than required so customer has some latitude for placement. Ends must be trimmed to match your body. If you still have the side molding, rear molding should be trimed to match up to flare. These flares are not fiber glass. They are ABS thermoplastic. This makes them easier to work with, more flexible, and less prone to cracking. No special prep is required for painting. These are sold and priced as a set of 4. Individual replacements are also available.

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I don't see the need for wider rubber with an M50 swap?
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:20 AM   #5
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well, i am still in process of thinking what i will do to the engine.

I am strongly considering M3 cams, stronger valve components, port-polish (i will do head rebuild, possibly even bottom rebuild if there is a point in this). But i am looking for recommendations.

Charlie told me that it won't be so hard to extract S50 power from M50 (i.e around 240hp) so i'll definitely need some thick rears

btw, weird thing i read in Bentley's last night: it says that it is not recommended to rotate tires on an e30 (it's talking about stock non-staggered obviously) - so i figured i might aswell go staggered since its a bad idea to swap non-staggered to begin with

one of my rear fenders is starting to rust away anyway so thats why it would work out good for me to just cut them off

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Old 12-13-2005, 10:24 AM   #6
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if you wanna dump some money... there is a dude named shaz on this site with a custom metal widebody on his e36.... i remember he said his guy can do whatever you want.. but there will be some money involved...

just go with some bmp flares if you want the cheapest route...
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:41 AM   #7
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Thanks for replies, guys

are there more shots of the BMP car? at that angle (on the picture above) it doesn't look that hot.

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The RS M50 is one of our rolling test beds for vendor-supplied and BMP-developed performance products. It's our way of assuring you the best performing and safest products on the market, while having great fun!

Engine/Transmission: We selected the engine from a 1995 M3. Modifications performed include: lightweight flywheel, heavy-duty clutch and Multi-throttle intake system, force fed by a Vortec "S" trim supercharger, via a 12''x 24'' air-to-air intercooler. The intake side of the supercharger couples to a large 3 1/2", European-style mass air sensor, using the Split-Second adjustable air/fuel ratio calibrator. A BMP adjustable fuel pressure regulator facilitates a constant, steady fuel flow and to keep everything cool, we custom-built an oversized aluminum radiator. This, in conjunction with a large 28-row oil cooler, keeps the engine temperature down, even under extended boost conditions. All this is coupled to a close ratio, custom 5-speed transmission.

Flares: Power increases demand larger wheels and tires to maintain traction. Flares allow fitment of 8x17 inch front, and 9x17 inch rear wheels with 225/45/17 front and 245/40/17 rear tires. The flares are designed to be installed with exposed rivets, eliminating the need to blend paint with body panels. Fender well modifications were required for fitment of the oversized wheel/tire combination.

Aerodynamics: New RS M50 aerodynamic components include flares, front spoiler with intercooler air intake, front air splitter, side rocker panels and rear skirt. The spoiler is a direct replacement for the original 5 M.P.H. impact bumper assembly. All components are lightweight, hand-laid fiberglass. None of the aerodynamic components for the RS M50 are interlocking, so they can be installed separately.

Another addition to the RS M50 is the twin-foil rear wing. Made of brushed aluminum, the twin foils are adjustable for varied down force. Additional adjustment range is provide by the CNC-machined mounting brackets which allow height adjustment, as well as forward/rear tilt angles. End caps are black anodized aluminum with BMP racing logos.

Brakes: More going-power requires more stopping-power! The BMP design racing brake kits increase friction surface area by as much as 250%. The lightweight, billet aluminum, 6-piston racing calipers are designed to maximize braking prowess. The precision-ground, stainless steel pistons assure total pad release during non-braking periods. The BMP fixed calipers offer more even pad wear than the O.E., floating calipers. Operating at reduced temperature, the 2 piece racing rotors resist warpage. The rear brakes are original M3 e30 calipers with race compound pads gripping Tarox g88 gas slotted, heat treated rotors.

Tuned exhaust: Supersprint and BMP design worked closely to develop the complete header-to-tailpipe exhaust system exclusively for the RS M50. All tubing is stainless steel and dimensions are oversize (60mm) to handle the additional exhaust output. The unique BMP RS diffusion tips were designed and prototyped right here at BMP.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:59 AM   #9
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Could allways do somthing like this this, could be made to look OK with some patiance and skill.

(Will have to hunt through the E30 325iCSL Photo's
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looks horrid.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:13 AM   #11
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minus the vents and shit... it looks half decent.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:20 AM   #12
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so, chrome, do you represent BMP? I might be interested in the custom M50E30 SS exhaust - how much is it?

Also how much are the plastic fender flares? these look like decent and easy solution.

that last red e30 pic: looks horrid i agree, but if its finished neatly would look quite pimp with wide-a$$ wheels

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Old 12-13-2005, 11:23 AM   #13
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And yes, the vents on the green are a nice rice touch. Way to gheyefy an otherwise good widebody job

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Old 12-13-2005, 11:24 AM   #14
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so, chrome, do you represent BMP? I might be interested in the custom M50E30 SS exhaust - how much is it?

Also how much are the plastic fender flares? these look like decent and easy solution.

that last red e30 pic: looks horrid i agree, but if its finished neatly would look quite pimp with wide-a$$ wheels

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LOL no... i don't. i just got it from their website. i've just been reading their stuff alot.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:25 PM   #15
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All that work on the BMP car to fit 225 F 245 R? WTF?
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