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Old 11-07-2005, 11:10 PM   #61
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u think that a integra type r
Torque (lb-ft)130 @ 7500 RPM
Horsepower 195 @ 8000 RPM
hang with an e36 m3
Torque (lb-ft) 236 @ 3800 RPM
horsepower 240 @ 6000 RPM
think those numbers say it all ...no way in hell
plus i raced a few integra's with my 320i....and they didnt pull that much ...maybe 1 or 2 car lenths
so i dunno man ...all i can say i would have to see it to beleave it
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:56 PM   #62
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M5 is without a doubt gearing. 7spd SMG.
I would say coefficent of friction! The viper is a freaking brick in the air, the m5 is better
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:21 AM   #63
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thats true ...
integra type r ave a 15.2 1/4 mile not bad actually
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:31 AM   #64
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Let me put the confusion and mystery behind the gearing to rest.
Below are 2 exactly identical cars- both being driven by the same computer AI. The only difference is the gearing.

AI 1 is driving the yellow car. This car has a 4.444 rear diff ratio.
AI 2 is driving the turquoise car. This car has a 3.333 rear diff ratio.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:32 AM   #65
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The turquoise car reaches 60mph at 4.19s
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:33 AM   #66
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At the same time, the yellow car, having needed to shift to 3rd gear, is still at 95km/h.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:33 AM   #67
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The turquoise car wins by a car
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:34 AM   #68
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The yellow car follows after- here are the times

Turquoise car: 11.87 <---- 3.333 diff
Yellow car: 12.03 <---- 4.444 diff

Notice the top speeds and gear. The turquoise car is still in 4th gear, the yellow car is in top gear (6th).
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:47 AM   #69
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:25 AM   #70
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christ, u couldn't use bigger pics?

Compact, we know what gearing does, but we don't know the specific details of the gears on these cars. So we're just speculating.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:26 AM   #72
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Kev, thanks bro Aschon, must'nt you forget the new 05's gained a nice 100lbs (2960lbs?) in weight. So that 10 hp doesnt factor in that effectlively.

Windwagen, the car pulls all the way up there pretty nice. My 1st gear takes me to 80km/h, 2nd gear to 110ish, 3rd to 155km, 4th to 205km/h, and 5th (210+) climbs DECENT... but 0-200 it just flies REAL quick.

I had 3 people with me in the car too, one of them is a former TT Supra owned (94) and he was amazed by what a n/a 1.8 litre engine could do.. other guy in the back had a Integra GS, and he was just like "What the ****, what the ****... " hahah.

0-60 ratings are different anywhere, its pretty funny how thye rated the 02 RSX-S faster in the 0-60, you can find the ITR rated anywhere between a flat 6.0 to a 7.2.. just like a E36s m3 5.5 to a 6.2...Car and driver gave the 2002 RSX-S a 8.0 and a 16 1/4 mile time, just goes to show depends who and where and how they test. lets stop magazing racing and think logically, compare two power outputs, weight,gears, etc.
the new 05's gained 70lbs and they have 10 more hp.. type-r cams and better exhaust (I might be missing something else as well..) oh and they have final drive like your type-r. E36 m3 runs low 14's stock 1/4 mile and your car runs high 14's just like an 05 type-s. My car runs 15 flat i don't know where you're gettin all this other b/s from... and that time goes for all 02-04's. (Published times range from 14.8-15.2)

and regarding your gearing..
my car does 70 in 1st, 100 in 2nd, 140 in 3rd, 200 in 4th, 238 in 5th and 6th gear unsure of.. haven't gone past that 5th gear redline yet... so it might be your gearing that helps you pull a bit in the 1/4.

an 02-04 rsx type-s w\intake, headers, exhaust and hondata#4 runs 13.6 all day long.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:30 AM   #73
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I do what i can!
Its true though, look at power versus weight, i've got a few buddies with typee and they never seem to have a problem showing a TYPE S who runs the show! Also, the type r will always be a better choice between the 2 because it is much more exclusive than your busted ass, dime a dozen TYPE S......
my busted, dime a dozen type-s is 100x better than your 400,000km blown motor, rusted, everything broken within E36 that is worth less than your avg e30.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:55 AM   #74
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my busted, dime a dozen type-s is 100x better than your 400,000km blown motor, rusted, everything broken within E36 that is worth less than your avg e30.
hahahahahahahahaha
The funny thing is, you got me down to a T!

Don't get me wrong... the RSX is hot, and i am jealous, a LITTLE, but there too much stupidness here!

All these times that are posted on paper don't mean much at all. I remember a friend of mine always use to call my car slow, cause according to all these websites, i had a 1/4 mile of 16 flat. Now when i first purchased my car, i managed to pull a 15.2 1/4mile time, and that was with 200k on the car, with NO MODS! Thats a pretty big difference when you think about it.

Power to weight makes a big difference, and the Type R's are light as hell, and although it seems like they don't produce too much power, because of they weight they're capable of hanging with M3's, even according to paper, if you read the right articles, you'll see that a TYPE R is capable of a 0-60 of 6 flat, and the M3's bad day pulls off a 6.2, meaning, there are those times where a M3 can get taken by a UNDERPOWERED Integra! And seeing as how the 1/4 mile times aren't too far from eachother, given the proper driver (how many people on here REALLY know how to launch they're car?) again, the Typee is easily capable of taking an M3 if it wasn't launched properly!



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Old 11-08-2005, 11:08 AM   #75
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hahahahahahahahaha
The funny thing is, you got me down to a T!

Don't get me wrong... the RSX is hot, and i am jealous, a LITTLE, but there too much stupidness here!

All these times that are posted on paper don't mean much at all. I remember a friend of mine always use to call my car slow, cause according to all these websites, i had a 1/4 mile of 16 flat. Now when i first purchased my car, i managed to pull a 15.2 1/4mile time, and that was with 200k on the car, with NO MODS! Thats a pretty big difference when you think about it.

Power to weight makes a big difference, and the Type R's are light as hell, and although it seems like they don't produce too much power, because of they weight they're capable of hanging with M3's, even according to paper, if you read the right articles, you'll see that a TYPE R is capable of a 0-60 of 6 flat, and the M3's bad day pulls off a 6.2, meaning, there are those times where a M3 can get taken by a UNDERPOWERED Integra! And seeing as how the 1/4 mile times aren't too far from eachother, given the proper driver (how many people on here REALLY know how to launch they're car?) again, the Typee is easily capable of taking an M3 if it wasn't launched properly!



And Gamite.............. your my HERO!
Kevin, stop being stupid, of course Type R can take on m3, hell, a stock civic can take on m3. Put someone who doesnt know how to drive manual in a 5spd M3 and a schumacher in a civic. Civic will own.
But the fact is, at the end of the day, M3 is still quicker.
We are talking about even factors for everything.
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