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Old 10-16-2002, 02:59 PM   #31
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its not just changing cams, a few other mods are required. Also they are hard to find or VERY expensive. Also there is this thing called torque.
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Old 10-16-2002, 06:45 PM   #32
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I'm going to dispute BOTH the 197 rwhp from the 93 325is with intake, exhaust, header and chip....sorry Randy, but I'm not buying that one.

I'm also not buying 213 rwhp from a 2.x L motor with cams in it....

AND, your 1.21 error correction is simply outrageous...try 10-12% MAX. Powertrain losses are simply not that high....

As well, dyno software is known to be highly inaccurate, depending on variables that are punched into the system. Plenty of guys drop in atmospheric readings that are simply outrageous, often because they don't know what the real readings are.

For some interesting reading, check out http://www.sdsefi.com/techdyno.htm


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Old 10-16-2002, 07:17 PM   #33
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I'm going to dispute BOTH the 197 rwhp from the 93 325is with intake, exhaust, header and chip....sorry Randy, but I'm not buying that one.

I'm also not buying 213 rwhp from a 2.x L motor with cams in it....

AND, your 1.21 error correction is simply outrageous...try 10-12% MAX. Powertrain losses are simply not that high....

As well, dyno software is known to be highly inaccurate, depending on variables that are punched into the system. Plenty of guys drop in atmospheric readings that are simply outrageous, often because they don't know what the real readings are.

For some interesting reading, check out http://www.sdsefi.com/techdyno.htm


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Old 10-16-2002, 08:00 PM   #34
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Sorry, but YOU are the idiot. This is a dynapack, measures actual torque at the wheels, rather than acceleration. Also the torque numbers are REAL TIME. I don't care if u buy it or not. 18% which would be hp correctio 1.21 for flywheel is correct. 240 hp are what stock m3s put out crank wise, and they pust down 195-200 to the ground. When YOU have a dyno, come back.

This board is more ignorent then dtm!!

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I'm going to dispute BOTH the 197 rwhp from the 93 325is with intake, exhaust, header and chip....sorry Randy, but I'm not buying that one.

I'm also not buying 213 rwhp from a 2.x L motor with cams in it....

AND, your 1.21 error correction is simply outrageous...try 10-12% MAX. Powertrain losses are simply not that high....

As well, dyno software is known to be highly inaccurate, depending on variables that are punched into the system. Plenty of guys drop in atmospheric readings that are simply outrageous, often because they don't know what the real readings are.

For some interesting reading, check out http://www.sdsefi.com/techdyno.htm


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Old 10-16-2002, 08:32 PM   #35
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Sorry, but YOU are the idiot. This is a dynapack, measures actual torque at the wheels, rather than acceleration. Also the torque numbers are REAL TIME. I don't care if u buy it or not. 18% which would be hp correctio 1.21 for flywheel is correct. 240 hp are what stock m3s put out crank wise, and they pust down 195-200 to the ground. When YOU have a dyno, come back.

This board is more ignorent then dtm!!

You may be right or wrong in your assumptions in this thread, but you have been doing nothing but putting other members down by name calling. Everyone has their opinion to what they think is true, you dont have to call some one an idiot just because you think you are right. And lets please not get into which board is more ignorant, Ive been to both also and let me tell you its not this one. Also notice how you spelled ignorAnt wrong.......your too ignorant to even be ignorant! Dont think cause your from America that your some kind of badass or something, that crap doesnt fly here
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:35 PM   #36
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We're obviously dealing with a thick headed know-it-all what won't take no for an answer .... keep dreaming Chris and when you actually learn some things about motors, come back.
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:36 PM   #37
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Everything I posted is legit. Point out where I am wrong. I was crude which wasn't to great, I admit, but I am not making shit up as others. Would you like a pic of me with the dyno and a good thumbs up? What about a live video?

I didnt know this was a "tom green" forum. Maybe I should come and vacation up there, heard the exchange rate is great. I was just pointing out the FACTS.
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Last time I checked Canada was in North America
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Dont think cause your from America that your some kind of badass or something, that crap doesnt fly here
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Old 10-16-2002, 08:51 PM   #39
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Last time I checked Canada was in North America
I was referring to the United States of America as just America, champ. Why are you even on this board if your just gonna insult everyone?? Oh and P.S the Carolina Huricanes suck ass
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Haha seems like they did good since they are what like TWO years old. Wait till Next year. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CURRENCY CHAMP. Nortel Networks stock is at what? 50 cents?

I was just pointing out the facts, i said it was wrong of me for being rude. But you can't shut up
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Old 10-16-2002, 09:07 PM   #41
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Haha seems like they did good since they are what like TWO years old. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR CURRENCY CHAMP. Nortel stock is at what? 50 cents?
Wow I've never heard more of a dumass statement in my life. Good luck on your currency?? You know its good to see how you can compare America with 250 million people to canada 30 million directly. Can I ask you, did you know that canada has more billionair families per capita than america does?? How is it that Canada has been voted the best country over and over again by the UN, where as america has held the number 10th position for quite some time, behind countries like Norway, Switzerland, Belgum and many others??? Wow, Canada with its 30 mil people sucks right?? But it can keep up with the Americans on the world stage with its 250 mil people?? Ohh man are you ever smart. You know I dont blame you though, since your talking from your ignorant american background.
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Old 10-16-2002, 09:11 PM   #42
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Keep thinking that Bucko. Time to go watch Tom Green. later
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No reply cause you know Im right........ATTENTION MEMBERS: This is the first thread in the history of all forums across the world where someone has been proven completely and utterly wrong by another member. Scottycs ----YOU JUST GOT OWNED!!!!!
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Old 10-16-2002, 09:19 PM   #44
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this is amuzing. Where have I been proved wrong? your the moron and has not posted ANYTHING relating to the original post. You even mentioned you DID NOT KNOW the facts concering the thread.
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this is amuzing. Where have I been proved wrong? your the moron and has not posted ANYTHING relating to the original post. You even mentioned you DID NOT KNOW the facts concering the thread.
I was talking about America vs. Canada. (yeah this is amusing)
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