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Old 06-11-2005, 08:59 PM   #1
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Careless driving ticket



I got a ****ing careless yesterday,

The cop had someone pulled over, i drive by him at maybe 60km, my girl was looking back and seen him stairing, about 1km away i get 8 cop cars... yes 8 cop cars block me in. The cop said i was flying by doing 90km and almost killed him(he was standing on the side talking to the person he had pulled over) Asking me how much have i had to drink, i didnt drink nothing.

Im going to fight this becuase its compelet bull shit ticket.

Any tips for court?
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:08 PM   #2
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Was the cop sitting in his cruiser?

Did they prove to you that you were doing said speed?
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:09 PM   #3
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No prove of me speeding, he was standing beside the car he had pulled over
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:13 PM   #4
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No prove of me speeding, he was standing beside the car he had pulled over
Take it to court. The cop has no case.......he didn't use radar/laser. He is just a prick cop abusing his athority.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:16 PM   #5
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^^^Agreed
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:19 PM   #6
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i think police are able to estimate your speed without the use of radar and laser. Apperantly they're experts....
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:41 PM   #7
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Call Traffic Court Specialists

(416) 299-6966
(416) 292-1888

They have saved my ass many times, ask for Michael Booth. Tell him Reno told you about him.

This goes for anyone with traffic violation tickets. This guy is absolutely great, really nice guy, and I have no complaints yet. He has represented me many times, and I haven't had to get a second opinion yet.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:49 PM   #8
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how much is it?
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:58 PM   #9
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Every case is different, give him a shout on monday tell him what happened, explain about the cop being out of the car with no instument to measure the speed of your car, and having 8 cruisers surround you. Tell him all the details. Based on what he has to work with, he can give you a price on that. I will say it will PROBABLY(don't quote me here) cheaper than the fine you probably got on your ticket, as well as he will most likely save your points(most important). Your case sounds to be fairly easy to fight with a good chance of winning, but I'm no lawyer, so I can't say for sure.

Theres no harm in calling, at least it gives you one more option.

**Just as a side note, call Xcopper or one of those guys, and get a quote, explain them the story and ask them how much it would cost for them to represent you. Then call Michael and do the same thing. Get a quote, theres nothing to loose(besides the 10 mins you might be on the phone).

Good Luck
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:46 PM   #10
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yeah that cop sounds like a prick!
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:03 PM   #11
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be carefull and good luck dude..........
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This exact same thing happened to my buddy, complete BS. He still has to go to court for it.
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:21 PM   #13
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To fight a careless ticket, they will likely charge alot.

Its a more serious charge, and I dont think its worth the risk to go without a lawyer.
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:38 AM   #14
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130. Every person is guilty of the offence of driving carelessly who drives a vehicle or street car on a highway without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the highway and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $200 and not more than $1,000 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or to both, and in addition his or her licence or permit may be suspended for a period of not more than two years. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 130.
awesome, huh

I fought 1 myself similar Bs, but no 8 car takedown
here from a great site all about fighting tickets

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1. Careless driving tickets
Unlike speeding offences, careless driving is not an absolute liability offence. Simply put, if the driver has taken all possible steps like any reasonable man would do to avoid it ("due diligence"), but eventually couldn't, he/she cannot be convicted of careless driving. An excuse is a valid defence to a careless driving charge. In order to convict you, the prosecution not only has to establish that the action was dangerous, it is also required to prove your negligence. The hard part is the latter.
http://www.magma.ca/~fyst/appndxe.htm
the link to the main page is at the bottom.READ UP!

if this even went to trial a good "johhny cochran" type would subpeona
the person pulled over to get their opinion about how threatened the
officer felt.
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:43 AM   #15
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how many cops does it take to pull somenoe over? hahaha stupid pigs..
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