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03-01-2005, 10:42 AM
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holy old school...
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e46 M3 motor into an e30?
Has anyone heard/exhanged an e46 M3 motor into an e30 chassis? Is it possible? e36's fit so why not e46?...3.2 litres right?
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03-01-2005, 12:42 PM
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I don't think making it fit would be the problem. Its the engine management that would be the nightmare. You'd probably need to go with aftermarket engine management like Motec.
I haven't heard of anyone getting it done.
I haven't even heard of anyone getting it to run with the stock engine management with an e36, has this been done?
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03-01-2005, 12:43 PM
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What M3 engine did Randy have in his E30?
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03-01-2005, 12:44 PM
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It wasn't from an e46, it was from an e36.
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03-01-2005, 02:14 PM
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There was one I believe, in Asia somewhere. Never found any details on it, but I suspect totally independent management was present.
I don't think it makes any sense to do it, personally. Even an M60/M62 swap would be less headache, provide the same HP and a lot more torque with a few mods, is actually lighter than an S54, and to top it all off is cheaper and much more plentiful in the wrecking yards.
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03-01-2005, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystikal
There was one I believe, in Asia somewhere. Never found any details on it, but I suspect totally independent management was present.
I don't think it makes any sense to do it, personally. Even an M60/M62 swap would be less headache, provide the same HP and a lot more torque with a few mods, is actually lighter than an S54, and to top it all off is cheaper and much more plentiful in the wrecking yards.
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torque monster, not to mention quite tunable (s/c)
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03-01-2005, 04:36 PM
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It is possible, but yes, standalone engine management is practically required.
If you're ready to have your wallet emptied, contact Sias Tuning, they have TEC 3 setups for the S54 engine. Check out the projects section, the Widebody e36 M3 has an S54 in it.
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03-01-2005, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NickP
I don't think making it fit would be the problem. Its the engine management that would be the nightmare. You'd probably need to go with aftermarket engine management like Motec.
I haven't heard of anyone getting it done.
I haven't even heard of anyone getting it to run with the stock engine management with an e36, has this been done?
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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
MarkD
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03-01-2005, 07:10 PM
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If your looking for a straight line car........E34 535i 3.5L w/ custom turbo/supercharger.
Or for a road course setup.......Z3 2.8L (all aluminum engine).
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
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Also don't forget.......Hartge has the E39 M5 4.9L in a Z4!
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03-01-2005, 08:45 PM
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Are you planing to swap S54 in to E30? Or you would just like to know who can do it for you?
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03-01-2005, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
MarkD
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Jazz guy?
if thats him, do you get in touch with him?
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03-02-2005, 12:56 AM
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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
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^^^
It's up and running and they just dropped S54 into e36 ... I'll see if I can get some pics.
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03-02-2005, 09:47 AM
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^^^
It's up and running and they just dropped S54 into e36 ... I'll see if I can get some pics.
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You know Mike also? Maybe you met me there? (actually I think I know who you are)
I just talked to the owner of the Z3/S54 and he mentioned that he went out for a spin in it a few weeks ago. I told him to post something here.
I'll be over to Munich Motors soon as Mike wants me to start work on the software for a s/c X5 and I can take pictures then, unless you get there first.
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03-02-2005, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
MarkD
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This seems like a dumb idea ... why not just get an M roadster?
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03-02-2005, 11:44 AM
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damn i could just imagine the power coming from that z4, and in any cases from any e30 with m3 engines being dropped in, good luck with your work ahead
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