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Old 03-01-2005, 11:42 AM   #1
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e46 M3 motor into an e30?

Has anyone heard/exhanged an e46 M3 motor into an e30 chassis? Is it possible? e36's fit so why not e46?...3.2 litres right?
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:42 PM   #2
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I don't think making it fit would be the problem. Its the engine management that would be the nightmare. You'd probably need to go with aftermarket engine management like Motec.

I haven't heard of anyone getting it done.
I haven't even heard of anyone getting it to run with the stock engine management with an e36, has this been done?
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:43 PM   #3
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What M3 engine did Randy have in his E30?
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:44 PM   #4
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It wasn't from an e46, it was from an e36.
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Old 03-01-2005, 03:14 PM   #5
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There was one I believe, in Asia somewhere. Never found any details on it, but I suspect totally independent management was present.

I don't think it makes any sense to do it, personally. Even an M60/M62 swap would be less headache, provide the same HP and a lot more torque with a few mods, is actually lighter than an S54, and to top it all off is cheaper and much more plentiful in the wrecking yards.
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Old 03-01-2005, 03:15 PM   #6
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There was one I believe, in Asia somewhere. Never found any details on it, but I suspect totally independent management was present.

I don't think it makes any sense to do it, personally. Even an M60/M62 swap would be less headache, provide the same HP and a lot more torque with a few mods, is actually lighter than an S54, and to top it all off is cheaper and much more plentiful in the wrecking yards.

torque monster, not to mention quite tunable (s/c)
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:36 PM   #7
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It is possible, but yes, standalone engine management is practically required.

If you're ready to have your wallet emptied, contact Sias Tuning, they have TEC 3 setups for the S54 engine. Check out the projects section, the Widebody e36 M3 has an S54 in it.
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:52 PM   #8
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I don't think making it fit would be the problem. Its the engine management that would be the nightmare. You'd probably need to go with aftermarket engine management like Motec.

I haven't heard of anyone getting it done.
I haven't even heard of anyone getting it to run with the stock engine management with an e36, has this been done?

Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)

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Old 03-01-2005, 08:10 PM   #9
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If your looking for a straight line car........E34 535i 3.5L w/ custom turbo/supercharger.

Or for a road course setup.......Z3 2.8L (all aluminum engine).

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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)

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Are you planing to swap S54 in to E30? Or you would just like to know who can do it for you?
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Old 03-02-2005, 12:56 AM   #11
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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)

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Jazz guy?


if thats him, do you get in touch with him?
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Old 03-02-2005, 01:56 AM   #12
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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)
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It's up and running and they just dropped S54 into e36 ... I'll see if I can get some pics.
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It's up and running and they just dropped S54 into e36 ... I'll see if I can get some pics.

You know Mike also? Maybe you met me there? (actually I think I know who you are)

I just talked to the owner of the Z3/S54 and he mentioned that he went out for a spin in it a few weeks ago. I told him to post something here.

I'll be over to Munich Motors soon as Mike wants me to start work on the software for a s/c X5 and I can take pictures then, unless you get there first.




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Old 03-02-2005, 11:04 AM   #14
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Munich Motors has dropped an S54 into a Z3 and it should be running this spring... the car belongs to someone who is also on this board. (I hooked him up with Mike at Munich Motors)

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This seems like a dumb idea ... why not just get an M roadster?
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damn i could just imagine the power coming from that z4, and in any cases from any e30 with m3 engines being dropped in, good luck with your work ahead
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