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Old 12-31-2004, 12:51 AM   #1
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easy to cheat on BMW odometer?

I'm going thru this paranoid period that I think all used car lot sell cheated cars, I got a question, are BMWs easy to cheat on the odometer like VWs???

like say a 97 528, is it easy to swap the cluster or somehow roll it back? I remember I read it somewhere you need a dealer's code to be able to swap cluster?

and would you buy a car originally from Alberta?
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:55 AM   #2
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I thought that as soon as the seal around the cluster or any tampering with the odometer would light up a light in the dash and it would never turn off.
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:17 AM   #3
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Bothe cases are possible, you can buy a used cluster a anywhere and swap it...or with the proper tools the digital odometer can be rolled back. So if the condition/age of the car does not match the KM, walk away from the deal...
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Old 12-31-2004, 03:03 AM   #4
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and would you buy a car originally from Alberta?
yes

why not?

if the history checks out

Alberta - uses way less salt on their roads in the winters, compared to ont. and quebec
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Old 12-31-2004, 04:41 AM   #5
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well i got some old clusters for my e30 (dont worry im not cheating and i havent switched..still got 274XXX on the clock) but i got these to replace lights and so on and i took one apart to try to turn it back...and i found a way..but i mean it would have taken me AGE'S to do it....but i dont know about other tools and such!
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Old 12-31-2004, 06:17 AM   #6
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We hardly use any salt on our roads.

Most beemers from the 80's in Alberta still don't have rust.

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Old 12-31-2004, 11:05 AM   #7
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one word: service records.... probably the best anti-fraud thing out there!
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:30 PM   #8
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one word: service records.... probably the best anti-fraud thing out there!
I motherfucking concur.

unless you are buying a beater or a car to dick around in... get the records.
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Old 12-31-2004, 12:42 PM   #9
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one word: service records.... probably the best anti-fraud thing out there!

Thats 2 words LoL...^^^
But you are right!!! I got my first E30 with 320K but along with records at BMW from day 1...$15000 worth of work in the last few years, and it turned out to be THE MOST reliable car i have owned (and i had a few!)...
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Old 12-31-2004, 01:00 PM   #10
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yes

why not?

if the history checks out

Alberta - uses way less salt on their roads in the winters, compared to ont. and quebec
As in NO SALT.

I would buy a car from BC and Alberta, before buying it here. The only drawback is its obviously farther away... resulting in the obviuos problems.
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My Bro inlaw bought a '97 528 with 130k on the odometer. He later got a call from a government agency saying that they thought it had been rolled back. So he took it into the BMW dealer. They are able to look at the chip in the key and determine actual mileage. Apparently it had 230k.
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Old 12-31-2004, 03:59 PM   #12
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one word: service records.... probably the best anti-fraud thing out there!
those are good if the owner is reporting the actual mileage....
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Old 12-31-2004, 04:04 PM   #13
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Service record doesn't mean jack if the owner does his own maintenance after the warranty has expired.


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My Bro inlaw bought a '97 528 with 130k on the odometer. He later got a call from a government agency saying that they thought it had been rolled back. So he took it into the BMW dealer. They are able to look at the chip in the key and determine actual mileage. Apparently it had 230k.
please elaborate more on this, so there's actually a way to check the actual mileage on the car by checking the key???
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Old 12-31-2004, 04:48 PM   #14
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No, there isn't any way to get mileage info from the key.

He's probably just mistaken.

Just look for the obvious tell-tale signs of mileage related wear and tear.

Example: clutch, gas, brake pedal condition, carpet condition in driver's footwell, wear signs on door hinges and locking post, worn out keys, steering wheel, winshield, pitted headlights, etc...

Good luck!
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Old 12-31-2004, 05:02 PM   #15
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if your having a few speculations on the milage look elsewhere to comfirm your suspicions

1. check the steering wheel, high milage cars have worn out steering wheels are are usually shiny and smooth from lots or driving

2. check the driver seat, is it worn out on the outer corner of the seat? often because the car was used lots and its normal wear from getting in and out a shit load of times

3. check the body, is there lots of scratches, chips dent? signs of lots of driving

4. check the seat belts, are they worn down at all?

5. check the shifter, does it look like the steering wheel?

6. does it leak any oils or fluids?

7. check the spare tire, has it been used? a sign that the car was driven lots

8. check the shocks, push on the hood, and let it bounce, if it bounces more then 3 times before comming to a stop the shocks are gone, another sign of high milage

9. check the engine bay. is there crusted oil around any of the seals? could be previous leaks there

10. does the air conditioner work? possible signs of being worn out

11. check and see if there is the original head light bulbs, long shot but if they have been replaced could show they were on a lot

12. check the said milage of the car, and try to find a few parts that are degined to last that long ie: my 02 sensor is about 150,000KM if i bought a car with 110,000KM that o2 sensor shouldnt have been replaced

i could probally think of more if u need them
hope this helps!

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