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Old 11-28-2004, 07:37 PM   #1
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buying Audi A4 / Camaro - experiences ?

I can pickup a 94 Camaro SS with LT1 - 6 speed for a great price. any experience here? I know its a big heavy balloon that doesn handle but aside form that 275 hp is fun as hell. I have heard the LT1 is bulletproof . Any comments?

Secondly - I am interested in buying an Audi A4 . Probably a 1.8 T so I can chip it up. Anybody have experience with this or can recommend some good Audi A4 forums?

third - I still love BMWs just looking for something new !

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Old 11-28-2004, 07:44 PM   #2
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for the 1.8t theyre great cars
get a nice front mount intercooler , chip it , bigger down pipe from the turbo raise the boost a lil , turbo timer boost controler and blow of valve
and youll have one sweet fcukin ride !
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:51 PM   #3
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Camaro SS 6-SPEED..

U will be a fool not to get it.
My neigbour has one and it pulls very hard. very reliable motor compare to the 1.8t.
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:58 PM   #4
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Camaro SS 6-SPEED..

U will be a fool not to get it.
My neigbour has one and it pulls very hard. very reliable motor compare to the 1.8t.
Agreed.

LT1 are stout motors.

Relatively inexpensive to mod too.

you can get easy 400 HP with a H/C package, and get about 30 mpg on the highway. Then there's alway's FI if you want to get silly.
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Old 11-28-2004, 08:03 PM   #5
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although i like the audi more i'd have to lean towards the camaro on this one. if you can get either for a similar price go for the camaro.

solid motor, cheap to mod, will suck gas but that is made up by the savings in parts cost.
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Old 11-28-2004, 08:03 PM   #6
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Camaro SS 6-SPEED..
The Audi is nice, but not over a Camaro SS
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Old 11-28-2004, 08:53 PM   #7
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camaro ss
engine is way better
and i have an audi lol
audi is ok but u gotta buy into to make it strong (engine wise)
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:02 AM   #8
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Go for the Camaro. Bolt-ons galore and insane speed if you want it.

However, practically, the Quattro drivetrain is very tough and can support very good power. PES T28 conversion on an A4, 13.0-13.5 is normal, so you get the best of both worlds (AWD and power).
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:08 AM   #9
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Camaro LT1's own....i actually saw a CHP (California Highway Patroll) LT1 and damn...sux to be whoever is gonna eb running from it
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:57 AM   #10
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LT1 is definately the way to go in all honesty. They're indeed bulletproof... the problems you'll encounter with it are very small.. (i.e. sunglass holder in the interior is prone to breaking). You've got awesome RWD HP (275HP), it's a very inexpensive car. My buddy did a corvette conversion with his Trans Am. (they're both F-Body's). Wasn't expensive to drop in the engine, brakes, and exhaust... and he's laughing now. Mustangs, other Camaro's, etc. all try to race him from the light... never stand a chance. It's great.

Anyway, you can pick up one of these cars for as cheap at $5000 CDN... but most are around $7000-$9000 depending on year and options selected. As mentioned, they're bulletproof.. and actually have quite a few options. They've got loads of room inside... just have to get used to driving such a long car and you'll be fine.
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:58 AM   #11
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Both are very strong motors. That 5.7L is a knockout. Talk about throttle response, and brute power...an absolute beast.

The A4 is a phenominal machine. Stock numbers are only so-so, but with about 4k in mods(which is easily done), that car can put low to mid 13's on the board.

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Old 11-29-2004, 05:32 PM   #12
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Police LT1 Camero VS M3 (E30)

Some of you may have seen this video. It's awesome. Police chase an E30 m3 (the make it out to be an e36, but if you look closely...) with an LT1 Camero Police car.

Check it out.

http://media.eurotuned.com/BMW_nolin...LT1_Camaro.wmv

Let me know if the link doesn't work.
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Old 11-29-2004, 09:41 PM   #13
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I can pickup a 94 Camaro SS with LT1 - 6 speed for a great price. any experience here? I know its a big heavy balloon that doesn handle but aside form that 275 hp is fun as hell. I have heard the LT1 is bulletproof . Any comments?

Secondly - I am interested in buying an Audi A4 . Probably a 1.8 T so I can chip it up. Anybody have experience with this or can recommend some good Audi A4 forums?

third - I still love BMWs just looking for something new !

Re the Audi...

http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/96-01a4.htm

Some parts from the above link...

*...Consumer Reports has included the 1996-2001 Audi A4 1.8T on its list of used vehicles to avoid, principally because of a worse than average record with respect to engine repairs, but engine cooling, electrical and brake problems also caused concern...*

*...A problem with tie rod seals - dirt and moisture could get in causing excessive wear and eventually a very loose steering feel - led Audi to check all A4s for the condition and to recall some vehicles for replacement of tie rods...*

*... Audi has also experienced problems with oil sludge build-up in the 1.8T four-cylinder...Sludge build-up, which manufacturers say is caused by the use of improper engine oil and poor adherence to recommended oil change intervals, could lead to damage of the engine's internal parts. Audi issued technical service bulletins on this problem and has extended the warranty to eight years with unlimited mileage on the 1.8T engine for all Audi A4s built between 1997 and 2004. The extended warranty is transferable. Owners who have experienced engine damage and paid for repairs can request reimbursement for those repairs provided they can prove the appropriate oil was used and changed at the intervals recommended in the owner's manual...*

Upper control arms are another item which have been known to fail frequently on the older A4's.

Braking is a huge problem on the A4's as well...
Lots of people reporting braking problems on the NHTSA web site. Apparently, it has to do with water getting in between the pads, and discs resulting in extraordinarily long braking distances, and in some cases serious crashes.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm

And, as usual with European cars, watch out for screwed-up electrics/electronics; probably worse in that department than the BMW's.

Other than that, a decent car, particularly in the snow.

Oh, don't even think about chipping or doing any of that nonsense on the Audi if it has a warranty. Audi/VW of Canada will pull the plug on your warranty before you can say, *Chip? What chip?*.
Then, you're fooked BIG time!!!

For Audi forum, try the www.audiworld.com.

The Camaro?

Helluva performance machine!
Crude, no doubt, but it goes like the proverbial stink. You'll be munching on M3's and other riff-raff regularly if you get the SS. They also have a sweet engine roar - a roar only an American-built V8 can make.

Yes, yes, the Camaro was made in Quebec, but the engineering is all Yank.

Keep in mind, the Camaro is a death trap in the snow, and the Quattro is nothing but a burden on dry roads.
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:03 PM   #14
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go wit the camero rwd baby
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:29 PM   #15
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Some of you may have seen this video. It's awesome. Police chase an E30 m3 (the make it out to be an e36, but if you look closely...) with an LT1 Camero Police car.

Check it out.

http://media.eurotuned.com/BMW_nolin...LT1_Camaro.wmv

Let me know if the link doesn't work.

Even though the chase looks nice I bet the cop wasn't pushing the car. They never do for their safety and for the safety of the driver of the car. I bet he could of caught that car NO problem with teh Vette engine in it ;\
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