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Old 07-23-2002, 01:37 PM   #16
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Actually no you didnt, you wrote MB, meaning MegaByte.

ata 66 is 66Mb/s if you wanna get technical, a byte is 8 bits, so ata 66 is effectively around 8MB/sec. Give or take depending on manufacturer quality.
I never knew 66MB/sec meant Mega bits, thanks for clearing that up Gamite, I was wondering why it always seem much slower.

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Old 07-23-2002, 01:51 PM   #17
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Actually no you didnt, you wrote MB, meaning MegaByte.

ata 66 is 66Mb/s if you wanna get technical, a byte is 8 bits, so ata 66 is effectively around 8MB/sec. Give or take depending on manufacturer quality.
Better read the spec again Gamite. The ATA-66 spec is for a maximum burst speed of 66 MB/s (yes, that's MEGA BYTES, not MEGA bits, which would be Mb/s).

I can regularly get between 40 and 50 MB/s of throughput (using Atto as a test platform) on ATA-100 drives. If your theory were true, then ATA-100 would have a maximum throughput under ideal conditions of 12.5 MB/s.


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Old 07-23-2002, 02:02 PM   #18
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mb/s, MB/s, Mb/s - means MEGA-BYTE per second

mbs, mbps, MBps, mbs/s, etc - MEGA BITS PER SECOND

ATA-66 is in Mb/s, ATA-100 is in Mb/s as well - 66/100 is the maximum theoretical throughput.

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Better read the spec again Gamite. The ATA-66 spec is for a maximum burst speed of 66 MB/s (yes, that's MEGA BYTES, not MEGA bits, which would be Mb/s).

I can regularly get between 40 and 50 MB/s of throughput (using Atto as a test platform) on ATA-100 drives. If your theory were true, then ATA-100 would have a maximum throughput under ideal conditions of 12.5 MB/s.


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Old 07-23-2002, 02:39 PM   #19
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so...im lost...was i correct? ata 66 - 66mb/s?
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mb/s, MB/s, Mb/s - means MEGA-BYTE per second

mbs, mbps, MBps, mbs/s, etc - MEGA BITS PER SECOND

ATA-66 is in Mb/s, ATA-100 is in Mb/s as well - 66/100 is the maximum theoretical throughput.

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No, actually, the commonly accepted standard is capital B for bytes, and lower-case b for bits, regardless of it being bits or bytes per second, or merely as representation of a total (ie, 128 MB of ram...vs 128 Mbps of throughput).

So, MB/s or MBps means Mega-Bytes per second. Hard drives are generally classified in MB per second in terms of throughput.

Mbps or Mb/s means Mega-bits per second. Most network connections are rated in terms of mega-bits per second.

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Damn, I gotta stop typing at 7am.. I got the whole thing confused with the read speed. (ms) Dont ask why.

But yea, on average I can transfer about 40MB/sec throughout my system, I dont have any idea why I was thinking like that.



Pat, I read your post wrong, I read it as: "mega bits, not bytes" for some reason.


Johnny, you were right in the first place.. gosh darn.
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Thats what I thought. If it were 100Mb/s I would be using a hard drive back from the old 386/486 days.

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I messed up. B is for BYTES, and b is for bits. I stand corrected.

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No, actually, the commonly accepted standard is capital B for bytes, and lower-case b for bits, regardless of it being bits or bytes per second, or merely as representation of a total (ie, 128 MB of ram...vs 128 Mbps of throughput).

So, MB/s or MBps means Mega-Bytes per second. Hard drives are generally classified in MB per second in terms of throughput.

Mbps or Mb/s means Mega-bits per second. Most network connections are rated in terms of mega-bits per second.

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Damn, I gotta stop typing at 7am.. I got the whole thing confused with the read speed. (ms) Dont ask why.

But yea, on average I can transfer about 40MB/sec throughout my system, I dont have any idea why I was thinking like that.



Pat, I read your post wrong, I read it as: "mega bits, not bytes" for some reason.


Johnny, you were right in the first place.. gosh darn.

hahaha no worries man....theres no h in my name btw..maybe u shud be sleeping at 7am instead of on the pooter eh!
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maybe u shud be sleeping at 7am instead of on the pooter eh!
Serious, I didnt goto bed till 8am!
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HEY BRYAN WILL YOUR VIDEO CARD FIT ON A SOLTEK SL-75LIV motherboard???

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HEY BRYAN WILL YOUR VIDEO CARD FIT ON A SOLTEK SL-75LIV motherboard???

Thanks,

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I have no idea what type of motherboard that is. This card will work on all AGP 2x and 4X motherboards. If you need more info on AGP just look your motherboard up on the Internet. Thanks

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Why bother for that video card?
A brand new Asus Geforce2 V7700 Ultra (which is a GTS) cost only $105 with a 250mhz core clock and 460mhz memory speed or the non ultra with VIVO with the same price which has lower core speed @ 200mhz core and 400(I think) mhz memory speed
If you want a G2 MX series, it only cost 40 bucks
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Why bother for that video card?
A brand new Asus Geforce2 V7700 Ultra (which is a GTS) cost only $105 with a 250mhz core clock and 460mhz memory speed or the non ultra with VIVO with the same price which has lower core speed @ 200mhz core and 400(I think) mhz memory speed
If you want a G2 MX series, it only cost 40 bucks
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For the last time the reason why I'm selling for $70 is because this card is made for overclocking and its using the early generation MX chipset which isn't Mx200 or Mx400. The clock speed is faster than the one your are talking about. OVerclocked this thing is just as fast as the G4MX440, and it has dual monitor output + TVout. Seriously man, if you don't want it thats fine, but stop ****ing up my sales.

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Just to prove a point. Both G2MX and G4MX's are both based on the NV17 chipset..

NV17 = GeForce 2 chipset but w/ a lower clock speed, it still retains some of the newer features of the G4 chipsets. Here are the performance results after numerous tests w/ 3D Mark 2001

My system specs:

PIII 733MHz CU SSE
Asus CUV4X
512MB PC-133MHz SD-Ram
Maxtor ATA-100 30GB HDD
MSI G4MX440 64MB DDR

3DMark test w/ factory settings
Score: 3644marks

Next system test:

PIII 733MHz CU SSE
Asus CUV4X
512MB PC-133MHz SD-Ram
Maxtor ATA-100 30GB HDD
Leaktek G2MXDHPro 32MB SGR

3DMark test w/ safe level overclock
Score: 3480marks

As you can see the cards performance marks are very similar. Even after the MSI was overclocked the performance gain was very minimal and was quite unstable. The Leadtek was the better card for overclocking as the temperature was very stable and it never crashed.

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