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Old 07-08-2002, 05:13 PM   #1
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Possible M3?

my friend is looking at trading in his 98 honda prelude for a 95 M3. he doesnt know BMWs well, and my knowledge is pretty limited to E30s. so ill ask you all. how are they problems issues i know its the first year for the E36 M3 (at least in the states) so how was the reliability of them? thanks a bunch guys! oh yea its got 51K miles on it and the dealer is asking around $21,000 (US)
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Old 07-08-2002, 05:26 PM   #2
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hmm no problems, except plastic water pump better be changed oon the 97+ pump.
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Old 07-08-2002, 07:19 PM   #3
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valves, valves and more valves...
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valves, valves and more valves...
what do you mean by that? intake/exhaust valves? do they break or need adjustment? please explain. thanks.
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Old 07-08-2002, 07:42 PM   #5
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valves, valves and more valves...

never heard about valves problem
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Old 07-08-2002, 10:54 PM   #6
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Valves aren't adjustable on that motor, so I'm not sure what you're hinting at there...

I'd say the price is a little high for a 95 E36 M3.

Mileage isn't bad, but I'd be inclined to go high teens on the car, rather than $21,000 US. $18 or $19 is probably a fair price (in thousands...of course).

95 had the 3.0L motor, instead of the 3.2L. A little less torque, but plenty of potential due to being OBD-I vs OBD-II. Less restrictive computer, etc, etc. This car also has the 3.15 rear diff as opposed to the 3.23 rear diff of later (97 and up) years.

Depending upon the overall quality of the car, I'd say go for it.

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Pat, what's faster(acceleration) when you differention has lower or higher number?
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It's a *little* more complex than simply saying a shorter drive (higher number) has better acceleration. Generally this is true, but at some point you'll run out of RPMs, and then it's better to have the taller gearset.

Anyhow, the 96+ M3's accelerate a little better than the 95's, partially due to the rear gear ratio, and partially due to the greater torque of the 3.2L motor.


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Exhaust valves have been known to burn out on the 3.0's

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Valves aren't adjustable on that motor, so I'm not sure what you're hinting at there...

I'd say the price is a little high for a 95 E36 M3.

Mileage isn't bad, but I'd be inclined to go high teens on the car, rather than $21,000 US. $18 or $19 is probably a fair price (in thousands...of course).

95 had the 3.0L motor, instead of the 3.2L. A little less torque, but plenty of potential due to being OBD-I vs OBD-II. Less restrictive computer, etc, etc. This car also has the 3.15 rear diff as opposed to the 3.23 rear diff of later (97 and up) years.

Depending upon the overall quality of the car, I'd say go for it.

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Not that I've ever seen, though since the 3.0L US Spec motor was never really available in Canada, I haven't done a lot of looking at it.

I haven't seen any valves being replaced on the Euro 3.0L (which was the only 3.0L we got here...), and I know at least a dozen people with 3.0L Euro motors in their car (either Euro M3's or custom track cars...).


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Not that I've ever seen, though since the 3.0L US Spec motor was never really available in Canada, I haven't done a lot of looking at it.

I haven't seen any valves being replaced on the Euro 3.0L (which was the only 3.0L we got here...), and I know at least a dozen people with 3.0L Euro motors in their car (either Euro M3's or custom track cars...).

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You're right Canada didn't receive the 3.0's... since it didn't receive any 1995 m3's. I'm not sure if this applies to the 3.2's or not but I recall the issue had to do with the valve not rotating due to the guide and slowly burning around the edge. This was discussed a couple years back on the UUC digest.
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As far as I recall on that whole discussion, it had something to do with improperly installed valve guides, which subsequently didn't allow the valves to rotate, and hence, burned-out.

This will happen on a rebuilt 3.2L block as well, if you have a mechanic who doesn't know what they're doing.

I don't recall this being a big factory BMW issue, but rather an issue when it came to rebuilds (either via the dealer, or an independent shop).


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thanks for all the responses everyone!
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