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Old 04-28-2004, 09:47 PM   #1
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New here and a NOS question

hello,

I am new here. I am from Holland and driving a BMW e30 with a Hartge engine.

I have a question about Nos,
There are several manufacturers and I want to know what is the best kit available and what are the differences?

I am searching for a kit for 50 hp extra several seconds. I dont want to make the engine internally stronger by means of forged pistons etc.

It a m20 engine.

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Old 04-28-2004, 10:21 PM   #2
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Most kits are the same with the exception of ZEX. Since you want to go with a low shot, that's what I recommend. The ZEX kits come with a control box that senses the fuel pressure and will automatically cut the NO2 supply when fuel pressure drops to a dangerous level.... generally the safest kit and also the easiest to install. I've had NOS, NX and ZEX... so I'm kinda experienced with them.

p.s. I'm selling my NX kit for $700.00 CDN if you're interested.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:35 PM   #3
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I never recommend NOS or any other spray... It just f*ckes *p the whole engine...

save for a turbo-charger or somethin...
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:49 AM   #4
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the only time I recommand NOS is at parties
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Old 04-29-2004, 03:39 AM   #5
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I never recommend NOS or any other spray... It just f*ckes *p the whole engine...

save for a turbo-charger or somethin...

^^^ thatz what i've heard.
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Old 04-29-2004, 06:42 AM   #6
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No it does not, if your hands are not growing from the ass
(meaning set it up properly and use it wisely)
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Old 04-29-2004, 08:32 AM   #7
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^^^ meaning that you can't drop a nos kit in a stock civic... you have to make adjustments/put better parts into other aspects of the car too ...


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Old 04-29-2004, 10:14 AM   #8
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Thanks for the answer. If you think that the ZEX kit is the best for me, then i go for that. But would you recommend NOS on a m20 engine or you also say go for the turbo or supercharger? I dont need te power always, i already have enough power for a daily ride

@ the others who thinks that NOS will ruin your engine. If you use it wisely, only when you really need it, when the engine is at temperature and you make some adjustments to your cooling, then there is nothing to wurry.
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Old 04-29-2004, 12:09 PM   #9
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sure NOS is good íf you use is wisely... but a turbo-charger is much more good for your money IMO
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Old 04-29-2004, 12:49 PM   #10
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sure NOS is good íf you use is wisely... but a turbo-charger is much more good for your money IMO
How can you compare a turbocharger to nitros? Nitros is waaay cheaper man.
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:03 PM   #11
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Nitrous is safe when used properly... I used an NOS kit (80HP) on my old M20 2.7L motor (before M3 swap) and had no problems with it for 2 years (went through bottle/week on average).... that's a lot of nitrous when you think about it. There is no turbo/supercharger kit available for under $1000.00 that will give you that much HP increase.

If you're responsible with the applications, you can make a 10lb bottle last 1 week (using it daily). Make sure the bottle valve is shut every night when not used (high pressure will cause small leaks). I recommend nitrous if you just like to surprise unsuspecting motorists at the local hang-out, or at stop lights. Don't bother using it on the highway. You should also look into the cost for a bottle refill at your local performance shop before you make a decision... I used to pay $50/bottle. Hope this helps.

p.s. Nitrous is usually illegal to use/have in your car.... I made this stealth set-up in my old Honda Civic. The sub is non-functional.
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Old 04-29-2004, 01:42 PM   #12
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The Zex kit, which you recommend, is there also a 80 hp increase possible? And does the system works apart from the motronic, but when the nitrous is activated does the nitrous system also injects extra fuel? When i buy the kit is there more needed or does the kit contains it al.

Here in the Netherlands I pay around 1100 Dollar for a NX Nitrous Kit and 660 Dollar for the ZEX kit. Why the big difference in prices?

one kg no2 costs 17 dollar at a local tuningshop.

nice picture My idea was to make the bottle look like a fire extinguisher

A lot of questions again, hope you can help me.

Thnx
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:04 PM   #13
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wow.. interesting thread.
empowered... do you think there's any sense of putting NOS in a 12 year old 4 cylinder engine? ... you're right, for the price it'll give a nice extra boost when needed.

You said you went through a bottle a week... how much spray is that?... (i.e. how many seconds/minutes of total boost is that?)
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Old 04-29-2004, 02:34 PM   #14
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theres nothing wrong with nos..you cant just bolt it up and let it go,you have to make sure the engine timing is right and youre not gonna run lean..thats it...id take the nos just for the cost/usage ratio...gas isnt cheap these days..
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Old 04-29-2004, 03:40 PM   #15
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felix.. that's true. There's no way I'd be able to afford a supercharger / turbo for my little 4 banger.. or even an engine swap.. not anytime soon. But there are times when I wish I had a little extra under the hood... NOS sounds like a good alternative. On Toronto streets... the car is enough.. but once in a while it'd be nice to get a little extra kick from the street lights.

Why is it not useful on highways though?
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