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Old 03-07-2004, 03:48 AM   #1
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Exclamation How to make 328i(s) faster than e36 M3?!?

Thinair mad a point that interested me.....

he said "with a few mods you can be faster then an M3 [on a 328is]"

now does anyone know what these few mods are? anyone have a 14.2 and less quarter mile 328is?
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:43 AM   #2
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I would do the obvious,

Chip
Exchaust
Air filter
Lightened flywheel
clutchstop with short shifter
Pullies

Then you can always supercharge or turbocharge and then you will blow M3's away.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:57 AM   #3
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haha

my 318is

runs a 12.6

0-60 lol
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:48 AM   #4
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well the obvious is to force induce the car.

but N/A you could always start with the basic mods (mentioned a few posts above) then change the intake manifold, exhaust manifold , throttle body mod, you could also do some internal modifications to the engine, and lighten the car.
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:20 AM   #5
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supercharger, turbo, or engine swap


(oh yeah, and lots of money )
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:39 AM   #6
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Im sure SUPERCHARGED can't wait to read this thread
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:42 PM   #7
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For the money your going to spend supercharging it I would buy an M3.

You may be able to make your car as quick as an M3 but you won't have the handling , braking, value etc. Just my 2 cents
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:48 PM   #8
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Lighter flywheel, pulleys and short shifter will not add horse power, it will make the throtle response much faster. Intake and chip will only add max 30 hp. The best and the cheapest way is to drop an S52 motor and leave the 328is badge.
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what engine is that from?
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:14 PM   #10
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what engine is that from?
1996-1999 M3
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Old 03-07-2004, 06:53 PM   #11
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These are the few mods that can make your car faster then an M3, and possibly squeak a 328 into very high 13's, without forced induction or spray.

This is the route I have chosen.

-M50 intake manifold (from a 91-95 525, 92-92 325 or 95 M3) (already install)
-96-99 M3 cams (or better) (being shipped)
-Software to run the above (already have)
-A 3.38LSD or better. My goal is to buy either a 3.38 from an auto M3, or a custom 3.46 diff. (no budget till next year). Running a 3.91 diff will also make you accelerate a lot faster, but you're gear limited at like 130mph or so at like 7000rpm.

Then your regular bolt-ons (Intake, exhaust, fan delete, ASC delete, etc, etc). I already have most of the bolt ons, I only really want a decent set of headers and a track pipe now.
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what he said!!
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For the money your going to spend supercharging it I would buy an M3.

You may be able to make your car as quick as an M3 but you won't have the handling , braking, value etc. Just my 2 cents
well yea... i just want to see if its possible to have m3 power from the 80% m3 2.8 L M52 engine... withough forced induction...

how much do m3 cams raise the power by???

those aren't too expensive
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well yea... i just want to see if its possible to have m3 power from the 80% m3 2.8 L M52 engine... withough forced induction...

how much do m3 cams raise the power by???

those aren't too expensive
Well, with a cam kit (cams, m50 manifold, and software), you're looking at about 200-210rwhp, which is what a stock M3 puts out. The only thing you will lack in is torque.

Be prepared to pay almost as much for labour to install the cams as you will for the cams themselves.

If you're really just interested in doind 1/4 mile runs, just save your cash and get nitrous.
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:06 AM   #15
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wow nice...

but im pretty sure i can tackle a cam conversion myself..

if not ill get my cousin to guide me in installing one...(two actually)

and the software... is it the same as the dinan software download ... or AA or all the others?
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