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Old 10-29-2004, 04:42 PM   #46
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Im just saying i dont like the powerband on the 540 thats all...personal preference
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:45 PM   #47
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I have to dig for it but I clocked a 14.01@101.2mph w/ a 2.0 60 footer. I am positive that with a very good launch (ie. 60ft around 1.7~1.8) I can get her in the 13's. (13.8~13.9) as I have the speed for it.
A 1.7-1.8 60' is never going to happen in a stock 540

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Old 10-29-2004, 04:45 PM   #48
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Im just saying i dont like the powerband on the 540 thats all...personal preference


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Old 10-29-2004, 07:33 PM   #49
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540i for sure. need to ask?
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Old 10-30-2004, 02:52 AM   #50
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im considerin one from my cousin.... how fast are the auto 540's... mid 14s?
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Old 10-30-2004, 02:55 AM   #51
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:48 PM   #52
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get the 5 ... Quack is wrong though.... the rear tires wear out fastest...heh heh

My buddy has a 330, and he thinks it sux every time I kick his A$$. He's now looking for a 540 wagon.

VAIO - I don't agree with your complaint of top end lacking. The Dyno doesn't lie, but when driving, my car starts pulling even harder above 4000 rpm. If I have to complain about top end, it's that the redline isn't high enough. It's still pulling HARD when the rev limiter (shift indicator) kicks in.

Does your father's car feel that way? Maybe there's something wrong. If I use low Octane gas, I can really feel the timing retarding under full throttle...feels kinda like traction control kicking in and out. With mid or high grade, it pulls super smooth.
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:03 AM   #53
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hm.. waggon eh? Interesting project car.
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Old 10-31-2004, 12:08 AM   #54
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Like this?

Hartge 5er touring

Too bad they're all automatic. I could really use the extra space - 2 kids, plus one coming. My wife wants a minivan, I was thinking 530 touring - M sport.
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:17 AM   #55
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get the 5 ... Quack is wrong though.... the rear tires wear out fastest...heh heh

My buddy has a 330, and he thinks it sux every time I kick his A$$. He's now looking for a 540 wagon.

VAIO - I don't agree with your complaint of top end lacking. The Dyno doesn't lie, but when driving, my car starts pulling even harder above 4000 rpm. If I have to complain about top end, it's that the redline isn't high enough. It's still pulling HARD when the rev limiter (shift indicator) kicks in.

Does your father's car feel that way? Maybe there's something wrong. If I use low Octane gas, I can really feel the timing retarding under full throttle...feels kinda like traction control kicking in and out. With mid or high grade, it pulls super smooth.
I have driven many 540's and they all had that. And hes uses 93 octane...

And no they dyno doesnt lie, your just crazy
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Old 10-31-2004, 01:33 AM   #56
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I have driven many 540's and they all had that. And hes uses 93 octane...

And no they dyno doesnt lie, your just crazy
CRAZY? YES!!!!!

But....That's what I wrote, "the dyno doesn't lie".

What do you mean by "They all had that." ...pulling harder above 4000, or the pulling hard right to the redline? I don't understand how this means "lacking top end". A car with poor top end would make the driver want to change gears before hitting the redline. Have you ever driven a diesel?

I'm not sure I agree with your Dyno analysis. Sure, it'd be great if the graph just kept climbing to somthing over 300 HP. Consider that 99% of the maximum HP is available from 4800 RPM up, whereas the 330 is down to 88% at the same RPM. Wouldn't it be nice if the 330 had all 210 HP available at 4800 RPM?
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Old 11-01-2004, 09:33 PM   #57
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it all depense what you want... you get 540 if you got family, like to just cruise around, want more space, want big but quick ride... you get 330 if you like it to be sporty, easier and smaller to control, still have decent power, don't need much space...

i've had 330ci for a year now, not a single f@cking problem other then 2-3 oil changes and I wouldn't trade it for older 5er, but I would get the new 5er in a blink
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Old 11-01-2004, 11:44 PM   #58
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wow ! only about 25 replies and finally someone in the same mindset as me - D12. Nice summary of the facts

REading the responses I am thinking this is an E39 board or forum version of the video game lemmings: "540 ... me too!... me too!" jesus. I can only speculate that you are either all midle-aged men in your 40s who drive 5 series, or young guys with their first e30 or e36 who think *they* know bmws, and "a 5 series must be better than a 3 series cuz its a higher number, right? Bigger engine = better car"

I have driven both the 540 6speed and a 330ci 5speed... and I can say wihtout doubt that the 3 wins hands down! It has a much lighter, crisper feel to the handling. Better fuel consumption. Comparable performance, and it looks about 10x better! You can't beat an inline six for smoothless... The e39 while classy is certainly not the best looking beemer to date. Its fast in 540 form, but feels like a heavy, ponderous tank at times.

And lets not forget styling - the e46 coupe is gorgeous while the e39 is a lackluster if bland, bloated design. I hated it when it came out, but have grown to midly like it now. Compare it to an e34 though and its chubbyness shows throw.

I vote 330ci !

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Old 11-02-2004, 12:14 AM   #59
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CRAZY? YES!!!!!

But....That's what I wrote, "the dyno doesn't lie".

What do you mean by "They all had that." ...pulling harder above 4000, or the pulling hard right to the redline? I don't understand how this means "lacking top end". A car with poor top end would make the driver want to change gears before hitting the redline. Have you ever driven a diesel?

I'm not sure I agree with your Dyno analysis. Sure, it'd be great if the graph just kept climbing to somthing over 300 HP. Consider that 99% of the maximum HP is available from 4800 RPM up, whereas the 330 is down to 88% at the same RPM. Wouldn't it be nice if the 330 had all 210 HP available at 4800 RPM?
When I said "they all had that" I was talking about how the acceleration(or G force) dropped drastically after ~4500rpm. The car still pulls very hard at 6000rpm(relative to other cars), but its not a linear feel to redline(like the 330). Top end speed/mph wise it pulls well, top end rev wise its crappy. In my opinions i want a motor that has a smooth predictable powerband that pulls CONSISTANTLY to redline.

Yes I have driven diesels before, quite a few actually. The 540 in a way is very similiar to having a lot of low end, but no top end.

I would rather have a motor that pulled consistenly all the way to 280hp@6000rpm than one that reached 276hp@4800rpm and then 280hp@600rpm. Thats a wasted 1200rpm...

But like I said, its a matter of opinion.
The 4.4 is more of a chug around town motor
The 3.0 is more of a rev me/race motor

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Old 11-02-2004, 12:19 AM   #60
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I have driven both the 540 6speed and a 330ci 5speed... and I can say wihtout doubt that the 3 wins hands down! It has a much lighter, crisper feel to the handling. Better fuel consumption. Comparable performance, and it looks about 10x better! You can't beat an inline six for smoothless... The e39 while classy is certainly not the best looking beemer to date. Its fast in 540 form, but feels like a heavy, ponderous tank at times.

And lets not forget styling - the e46 coupe is gorgeous while the e39 is a lackluster if bland, bloated design. I hated it when it came out, but have grown to midly like it now. Compare it to an e34 though and its chubbyness shows throw.

I vote 330ci !

Umm, that basically what I said
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