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Old 02-09-2004, 07:54 PM   #1
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What's a good all season budget tire?

Looking to spend $150-$200CDN per tire. It's for my 17" motorsport wheels. I'm looking for 225/45/17.

No Hankooks ventus or Kumho's.

I've tried Yoko AVID H4's (no good, grips only when new, very unpredictable, side walls give out too quickly), Hankook Ventus plus (total crap, car runs wide all the time, even when tires are new, no grip), Conti-touring eco plus (good, predictable, may buy again)

New tires only, suggestions and personal experiences please!

For the time being I need a comprimise between comfort and track. I'm not a serious tracker yet so a set of decent tires will be all that's required. Tread life, tire noise and predictability are key.

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Old 02-09-2004, 07:56 PM   #2
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Re: What's a good all season budget tire?

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I've tried Yoko AVID H4's (no good, no grip, handles like crap), Hankook Ventus plus (total crap, car runs wide all the time, even when tires are new, no grip)
thats because they're all seasons...after driving the E30 with all seasons, i never felt safe TRYING to go a lil fast..even in a straight line lol
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Old 02-09-2004, 07:58 PM   #3
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thats because they're all seasons...after driving the E30 with all seasons, i never felt safe TRYING to go a lil fast..even in a straight line lol
That's pretty stupid. You don't need ZR rated tires to have grip. Hankook Ventus plus were like $260 each and rated ZR's and they handled worse than any other all season tire I've driven on.

A good all season tire will easily out perform a crappy ZR rated summer tire.

I've driven a 330ci 5 speed to the limits using the conti-touring eco plus tires and they grip quite well, very predictable. So how is it that you can't drive straight with your car with all season tires? Did you get motormaster tires?

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Old 02-09-2004, 08:09 PM   #4
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why do you want all season? Get some nicer rubber. I dunno bout kumho's, mine wore down so fast. Maybe cuz of weight of my car? I dunno. But they were cheap, I'll give it that.
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why do you want all season? Get some nicer rubber. I dunno bout kumho's, mine wore down so fast. Maybe cuz of weight of my car? I dunno. But they were cheap, I'll give it that.
Tight budget. I've spent waaay too much money in the past few months.
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I'll give you my old kumho's for free. the ones on the front.
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I'll give you my old kumho's for free. the ones on the front.
Thanks, but I've already got a set of bald Hankook's. Plus, I have a feeling 18" tires won't fit.. duh
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price? Are those all seasons? Sounds like an expensive track tire.
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All-seasons are bad year round. And don't you have seperate winters? I don't understand why you would waste that wonderful suspension setup on no-seasons.

Here's what I recommend:

Yokohama ES100 - $112US



Kumho Ecsta MX - $120US



You can't go wrong with the ES100's, they are an all-around solid tire. The MX's are excellent too, nothing at all like the rest of the Kumho line. The MX's are a bit more hardcore, they will ride firmer and wear quicker than the ES100's, but there is always a compromise.
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I also recommand the Yokohama ES100, from some of my friends response, they think it's a great wet/dry tire, best bang for the buck
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price? Are those all seasons? Sounds like an expensive track tire.
Go to tirerack.com and get price and read reviews. Last time I was looking for one it was US$80 per tire. It's all seasons... that's what you're looking for, is it not?
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I also recommand the Yokohama ES100, from some of my friends response, they think it's a great wet/dry tire, best bang for the buck
I have ES100s and I guarantee you it's downright dangerous in the snow. Mine are 3 months old and I can't get up and down the driveway with them. I had to switch back to my 4 year old Dunlop SP2000s just so I can use my car every once in a while this past month.
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He has winter tires. So don't worry bout that.
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Haha, I don't understand why you hate Kumho tires that much. If you're on a budget they do the job and they perform better than All Seasons. I've ran them like 3 times in the auto-x last season and tread wear is still fine. They feel rock solid when I take them up to 200km/h, but now it feels wobbly because of my bent rim on the lip. I haven't tried any highspeed (100km/h+) tire screeching cornering, but how often do you drive that crazy in Toronto anyways.

Lastly, it's obvious that you won't use the Yoko ES100's in the snow. I don't get why people try using summer tires in the snow, especially when the level gets deep, you're only asking for trouble.
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