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Old 02-02-2004, 04:48 AM   #31
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couldn't of said it better, if YOu want a jap engine, buy a jap car.
Cept in the case of most e36 owners.. the 2JZ is a much better motor than they own, much cheaper than an S50 swap much cheaper than many other swaps. I can't understand people hating the jappa swaps. I'd do it in a second.

in NZ we have a dude with a 1JZ in his e30, its one of the fastest cars i've ever been in, simply amazing. So so much smoother than a BMW motor and it matches the car perfectly. He is on here also.. E30-323ti ..
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:35 AM   #32
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Over here in Malaysia, japs engine in an E30 is not uncommon.
First af all, it's cheap.
Secondly, those factory turbo-ed engines are tried and tested in the factory as compared to custom ones.

But I wouldn't do it unless I'm using it purely for track. Then it would be an all out car...
As for a daily driver, would still wanna maintain a bimmer engine in a bimmer shell...
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Old 02-02-2004, 08:49 PM   #33
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Cept in the case of most e36 owners.. the 2JZ is a much better motor than they own, much cheaper than an S50 swap much cheaper than many other swaps. I can't understand people hating the jappa swaps. I'd do it in a second.

in NZ we have a dude with a 1JZ in his e30, its one of the fastest cars i've ever been in, simply amazing. So so much smoother than a BMW motor and it matches the car perfectly. He is on here also.. E30-323ti ..
ok take this E36 and sell it, then buy something else, drop jiz or 1JZ motor in their and have a ball, goodnight. like terry (bmwm5lover) said, I dont care if it out runs darth vaders shuttle, it doesn't belong in a bimmer
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:05 PM   #34
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I makes me laugh how anal some people are about keeping their BMW so pure, At the end of the day it is a heap of metal with a badge!!

If you had a 318ti and loved its handling/nimbleness but is slow as buggery, and also had a 500hp supra that went well but handled like a barge.
Would you not wonder how the 318ti would go with the supra engine.
Well some of us do it, sacreligous as it is to some of you.

And I've never looked back.
280hp for 1/4 the cost of a S50 swap (and only 240hp), you can't complain!!
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:12 PM   #35
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it's the BMW purist vs the hybrids, neither of us will ever see it each others ways, we will call each other names like "ANAL" , but in the end ...to each his own
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:31 PM   #36
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as I said when I created the thread, "you either love it, or you hate it".
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:32 PM   #37
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as I said when I created the thread, "you either love it, or you hate it".
Amen to that brother
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:56 PM   #38
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I wasn't calling anybody names, just a very casual way of describing someones point of view.

Just a Q for all you purists out there:
How many of you have been in a hybrid vehicle and can say it was worse than the original??
I'm talking well done conversions, not engines being held in with duct tape and the ECU sitting in the passengers lap with a birds nest of wires!!
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Old 02-03-2004, 03:39 AM   #39
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I wasn't calling anybody names, just a very casual way of describing someones point of view.

Just a Q for all you purists out there:
How many of you have been in a hybrid vehicle and can say it was worse than the original??
I'm talking well done conversions, not engines being held in with duct tape and the ECU sitting in the passengers lap with a birds nest of wires!!
Yours is a mint clean install + it fits the bimmer way better than a dead m20 ever did. It belongs there, germans looks and handling with awesome cheap jappa power. Makes sense to me.
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:01 PM   #40
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I wasn't calling anybody names, just a very casual way of describing someones point of view.

Just a Q for all you purists out there:
How many of you have been in a hybrid vehicle and can say it was worse than the original??
I'm talking well done conversions, not engines being held in with duct tape and the ECU sitting in the passengers lap with a birds nest of wires!!
calm yourself son (English acccent)

I have been in a E30 toyota that did 290km/h on the 1000m , but I still dont think it belongs in a bimmer dawg (PIMP accent)

but, atleast it seems like yours is clean and all (conversion), anyway arqueing about this is pointless.....dawg

excuse me I watched to much MTV today and 50 cents is stuck in my head. PEE EYE EM PEE ..PIMP (I hate that sh*t)
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:17 PM   #41
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Love it or hate it, one or the other will eventually be under the hood of my car. The way I see it is, for $9000 I can have a 3.2L m3 engine in my car at 240hp ~ 260hp

OR

for $9000 I can have a heavily modified twin turbo 400hp+ engine under the hood....gee...which would a young 22 year old choose????

(to do the same with an m3 engine would cost around $20,000 ...and that's AFTER the engine is installed too )
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:23 PM   #42
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nobody said BMW's were cheap ....dawg the marquee comes with a price
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Old 02-03-2004, 05:26 PM   #43
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I can't wait to see the 2JZ in and spinning mad amounts of boost. You going single turbo on it?

I'll stay back and play with a SR20DET when my motor craps out.
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here's an interesting question:

do you guys not like any type of inter-racial engine swaps? (yeah.. I call em inter-racial)

For example... how about putting a Porche engine in an Rx7?

Would it be okay to put a higher-class engine in a BMW?... say, if someone managed (hypothetically speaking) to retrofit a Ferrari engine in a Bimmer... is that okay?

Or is it just that BMW has to stick to BMW, but everyone else can swap all they want?

Is it also bad to have other non-BMW parts in your BMW all together?... like a no-name intake?... non-BMW rims?... seats?.. steering wheel? ... body panels? headlights? skirts and body kits?

or is it only the engine that is not allowed to come from a company other than BMW?

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Contra Dont mind wat en1 says i still want to see that engine in there.
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