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Old 01-28-2004, 09:10 PM   #31
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This is one interesting post. For once most of the information is accurate!

To answer the question, as said previously, in stock for the manual will be faster. Up to a second in some vehicles. A modified automatic will be consistantly faster. Out of ten runs the manual may get one or two faster et's but the automatic will get more. In out and out drag racing that is what counts. On the street the guy driving the automatic will not very likely make a mistake. The twisties are another subject. Even a good manu-matic has delay built in and this is a killer when trying to drive fast. Some of the newer trannies, SMG, have this solved and will become the predominent transmission over the next decade. Why? All around faster with no mistakes. Ask all those S54 owners who have missed a shift. Car makers will stick make manuals for those who love Ultimate Control, me included. Just beware of the guy beside you in the automatic Mustang with a shift kit. He won't miss his shift.
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Old 01-29-2004, 01:39 AM   #32
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I would say acceleration depends on the driver, tranny and car. If the driver knows what gear and what engine speed to hit before a shift than the manual will win. Think about a manual tranny allows the driver to feed the desired amount of power, but shifing speed and time plays a factor.

The autos, well some autos, have smoother acceleration and if i remimber correctly are their shifts are computer controled so the tranny may shift to the next gear once the power curve starts dropping. However, many people say auto waste power rathe than produce or handle power like the manual...

Simply put, I say driver, tranny and car make decide the acceleration.
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Old 01-29-2004, 07:31 AM   #33
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well, as per my knowledge the diffrence might be with the diff. coz each car has diffrenet ratio between auto and manual coz I had before two cars 320 on auto and other is manual both with filter and plugs and so ( model 89 ) I noticed the diffrence so I checked the car the diff. ratio is diffrenet in both cars,, and the manual is the winner with me always
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Old 01-29-2004, 02:31 PM   #34
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stick would win for sure
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Old 01-29-2004, 10:55 PM   #35
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can some one tell me why a manual car has better fuel economy over an automatic? espically since in most manuals the rev's seem to be higher for normal shifts
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can some one tell me why a manual car has better fuel economy over an automatic? espically since in most manuals the rev's seem to be higher for normal shifts
Less frictional losses, and lower revs isn't the only thing that increases efficiency. If that was the case everyone would be cruising around in 5th gear at 40km/h, but then the engine load would be high that you'd probably waste more gas then if you were going 80km/h.
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Old 01-29-2004, 11:42 PM   #37
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hmmm you all stuck on one thing SHIFTING.
But you all forgetting that with stick you can launch at higher RPMs and shift at appropriate RPMs.

Also not sure but how automatic can shift faster?

automatic shift smooth all the time, with manual you can just drop the clutch.

Also DINAN got software for the slushbox, still it wont make auto faster than stick.
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