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Old 01-18-2004, 10:40 PM   #16
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80bucks is still mroe than I would pay to install springs. Its not so hard.

Jon you said yourself my front end felt stiffer than yours in my drvieway. Dingus.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:59 AM   #17
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Jon you said yourself my front end felt stiffer than yours in my drvieway. Dingus.
Hahaha, owned by his own words. And wasn't your setup actually used before it was mounted on your car? Stupid Jon.
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:20 AM   #18
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80bucks is still mroe than I would pay to install springs. Its not so hard.

Jon you said yourself my front end felt stiffer than yours in my drvieway. Dingus.
look what shocks i have? bilstein sports are stiffer than tokico...plus, that was with my coilovers in the front lower than the back...now that my car is level and even..it feels way better, so we'll compare again

$80 is good because its more than springs, its a coilover system which u need to cut and weld stuff...rather than using a spring compressor and putting it in the shock, and back in the car...
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:26 AM   #19
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I doubt the front and rear being the same height would make a differeance. But lets compare. I dont really care either way but hey.

Jay shouldnt even talk being stock height
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Old 01-19-2004, 01:32 AM   #20
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yes it does..there can be more weight transfered to one side...affecting the other sides stiffness etc
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Old 01-19-2004, 03:40 AM   #21
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Spring rates remain the same however your car is adjusted. Coilovers simply adjust height by changing the spot where the spring is seated in relation to the other suspension components. Your car will NOT be stiffer by adjusting the ride height.
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Old 01-19-2004, 04:41 AM   #22
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wat about making all the sides even? if one side is lower...that 1 side will be carrying most of the weight...wont that affect how stiff the spring/shock is due to the increased weight load?
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Old 01-20-2004, 04:02 AM   #23
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Assuming your spring rates are linear, which is most likely, it will always take a given amount of pressure to compress the spring a certain distance. If your spring rates were say 200lb/inch, it will always take 200lbs of pressure to compress the spring an inch until it can be compressed no more. The position of the car shouldn't have an effect on it. The stiffness of a spring is constant.
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Old 01-20-2004, 08:52 PM   #24
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so the ground control setup is the best for e30's?
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:14 PM   #25
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also i thought that your car needs to be corner weighed with coilovers. that way you have that same weight on the wheels. otherwise your car would handle like $hit. that is why you don't just lower and go. common among the rice crowd. like the e30 m3 evo, the last one they made, has to have a rake of 10mm lower in the front, no matter how low you go or the weight transfer will effect steering. that is also why a lot of kits don't level the car, they will have some rake to them.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:39 PM   #26
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i thought bilstein and eibach was the best combo??
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Old 01-23-2004, 12:27 AM   #27
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Bilstien and eibachs are by no means the best. They are good though. If you want an amazing set up get kw coilovers, unnessecary but ****ing awesome. Different strokes for different folks though, the best spring shock combo is the one that you get to suit your needs. Stiffer equals better handling but harsher ride. Decide what you want to use your car for. Personally ride quality is nothing to me as opposed to performance but its all subjective to the person.
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off topic, johnoz, how is that alarm you got installed? what exactly did you get done?
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I'm just wondering, what's the general consensus is on H&R sport...
I have it, and love it with 205/40/17 tires and bilstein sport shocks.
I got H&R under the assumption it was a bit stiffer than the eibach.
Anybody else have them in their e30's?
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I'm just wondering, what's the general consensus is on H&R sport...
I have it, and love it with 205/40/17 tires and bilstein sport shocks.
I got H&R under the assumption it was a bit stiffer than the eibach.
Anybody else have them in their e30's?
Good springs, slightly stiffer than the Pro-Kit. They match well with the Bilsteins, and are pretty much about the stiffest springs that you should pair with them.
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