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01-13-2004, 01:51 PM
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6th Gear Member
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Calling all supercharger guru's.........
I am thinking of going this route now........screw spending all the money on little bolt ons that add maybe 10hp if I am lucky. I found this kit on e-bay and need to know what you guys think. I do not know a whole lot about superchargers so once again I am asking all of you! Any help would be greatly appreciated! Here is the link;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2453726541
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01-13-2004, 02:39 PM
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2nd Gear Member
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AA uses the Rotrex blower with excellent results.
From MY research 2 things I've garnered is that the blower unit's reliability is questionable and they are not upgradeable.
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01-13-2004, 02:44 PM
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6th Gear Member
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Yes and I would need to somehow tune it and I have dinan software so I don't now what would happen there, plus I would need about 500US dollars more in parts.......but still that is pretty cheap.........just want to know if it's do-able
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01-13-2004, 07:04 PM
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It is do able. ASA SKI supercharger kits use rising rate(?) fuel pressure regulators instead of software. So having software ISN'T a must but would improve the performance of the unit and your engine greatly.
FYI: AA does do custom software as well.
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01-13-2004, 07:28 PM
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MaXsponsor
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Why dont u swap for a 3.2L? no replacement for displacement...bolts on to an OBD1 3.2L will give u great power...keeping NA reliability! plus u will get more torque and power if u plan to go FI on that too
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01-13-2004, 07:33 PM
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I know I know I wish I could but the $$$ is a little too big for my pockets! I have decided not to get the supercharger after all and instead get some looks for now..........via m3 sideskirts, m3 steering wheel and (possibly, i will pm you!) some euro ellipsoids.
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01-13-2004, 07:59 PM
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MaXsponsor
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how much is this SC kit installed, and TUNED? (dyno tuning is expensive) plus u need all those other parts...plus intercooler.
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01-13-2004, 10:57 PM
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yup exactly that is why i decided not to get it...........
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01-13-2004, 11:40 PM
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moderationistismingly
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All I'm going to say, get a twin screw blower. From what I've been told, it doesn't feel like a blown engine, it just feelis like a bigger engine.
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01-14-2004, 04:03 AM
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For all out power: centrifugal
For low end power: roots-type
For both, but big $$$: Twin-screw
A centrifugal blower (Paxton Novi, etc...) needs to spin up w/ the engine to make power, thus the boost is linear (the more revs, the more boost).
A roots-type is driven by the crank, so full boost is always a tenth of a second away. The problem is, the suffer from efficiency problems and run out of steam when you spin them hard.
A twin-screw is a variation of the roots-type, but very very efficient, and gives great low-end and good top end. Boost is instant, with an accent on higher rpm power.
The larger cubic inches the roots-type blower is, the more boost it can push (just like an engine). A centrifugal blower can be spun hard for more boost, but remember they also cost alot of $$$.
A supercharger tends to be low maintenance if they are installed properly and not pushed over their design limits.
A centrifugal supercharger makes a sound kind of link a bad alternator, and wheezes when it spins. A roots type screams like a jet engine. A twin screw sounds like a dentist's drill.
There is no right or wrong, as long as it works for your needs!
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01-14-2004, 04:03 AM
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The rotrex is a centrifugal type, btw...
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01-14-2004, 07:01 AM
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2nd Gear Member
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Quote:
Originally posted by moerom
The rotrex is a centrifugal type, btw...
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Actually I thought it was a hybrid a la ASA. They tend to spool faster thus providing a more linear torque curve allowing peak torque a RPMs as low as 2000-2500
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01-14-2004, 07:58 AM
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i think you're right because I made my guess solely on the blower case...
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01-14-2004, 08:27 AM
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don't they have a rotory vain style blower too? or are they all gear driven to spin an impeller really fast
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