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View Poll Results: How many think 17s are too small
What you talkin bout 17s are still da bomb 29 49.15%
18s no smaller no bigger 14 23.73%
If you can't stuff 19s on her go home son 10 16.95%
I'm still pimpin 15s 6 10.17%
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:15 PM   #31
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19"? deep dish? e36 ?

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unless you go widebody
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:29 PM   #32
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Mitch...E46 on 20s? thats pushin it..lol...
Actually let me re-phrase my sentence.

Some 20z actually look damn good on the E46 but 19z look very nice as well. Only if the 19z actually look like 19z though.
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:34 PM   #33
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But there are some downsides with 18 and 19.

1. Rubbing issues
If you properly lower the car, get the right offset rim, the right width rim, the right tire size, annnnnd roll the fenders you should be worry free of any rubbing. Even ask Jon when we went airborn on the Autumn cruise. My car didn't rub at all when we landed.
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:43 PM   #34
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If you properly lower the car, get the right offset rim, the right width rim, the right tire size, annnnnd roll the fenders you should be worry free of any rubbing. Even ask Jon when we went airborn on the Autumn cruise. My car didn't rub at all when we landed.
Yeah, and what tire width are you running? 225?

Remember, I can properly lower my car, and still have rubbing issues, there are so many variables. There are people out there with the tires rubbing on the insides of the fenders and/or muffler. Not all rubbing issues are on the fender lip.
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:03 PM   #35
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If you properly lower the car, get the right offset rim, the right width rim, the right tire size, annnnnd roll the fenders you should be worry free of any rubbing. Even ask Jon when we went airborn on the Autumn cruise. My car didn't rub at all when we landed.
yes i know, but how many 19" rims do not require any fender work? not a lot.
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Yeah, and what tire width are you running? 225?

Remember, I can properly lower my car, and still have rubbing issues, there are so many variables. There are people out there with the tires rubbing on the insides of the fenders and/or muffler. Not all rubbing issues are on the fender lip.
Yeap! I'm runnin' 225's. I wasn't looking at only fender rubbing. I took everything into account. I'm running 19 x 8.5 and I barely rub on the insides of the fenders when I have my wheels turned to the max. Even if they lightly rub (Almost never) they still don't do any damage to anything. I never ever have to turn my wheel to the max, not even to park in a tight spot. So itz all good.

I did my homework b4 I bought my rims.
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yes i know, but how many 19" rims do not require any fender work? not a lot.
Very true.

But.... If you want to get the proper fitment you have to look at all the aspects that I mentioned above, even fender rolling.
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Like I said before, my car did have 19's previously, the car was lowered 2" in the rear, the rim was 9" wide, the tire was 235/40/19, -2.5コ camber, and my fenders were rolled. The tires didn't rub the fender lip at all, it rubbed where the stock rear fender flair ends (1.5" above the fender lip). There is no doubt in my mind that I could have had those wheels rub-free if there was 5-7mm more offset.



I almost decided to keep the rims but I didn't want to risk the rim's integrity by machining down the hub mating surface 5-7mm.

That said, for how I use my car, I'm more then happy with the 17's I have now and have no regrets.
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Like I said before, my car did have 19's previously, the car was lowered 2" in the rear, the rim was 9" wide, the tire was 235/40/19, -2.5コ camber, and my fenders were rolled. The tires didn't rub the fender lip at all, it rubbed where the stock rear fender flair ends (1.5" above the fender lip). There is no doubt in my mind that I could have had those wheels rub-free if there was 5-7mm more offset.

I almost decided to keep the rims but I didn't want to risk the rim's integrity by machining down the hub mating surface 5-7mm.

That said, for how I use my car, I'm more then happy with the 17's I have now and have no regrets.
These were your four problems:

1. 9 inch wide rim
2. 235 tires
3. 40 series tires
4. The area where the stock rear fender flair ended needed to be shaved on the inside.

Were your old rims Altstadt's or Ace Wheels?
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These were your four problems:

1. 9 inch wide rim
2. 235 tires
3. 40 series tires
4. The area where the stock rear fender flair ended needed to be shaved on the inside.

Were your old rims Altstadt's or Ace Wheels?
oops, I meant 235/35/19, my current tires are 40 series.
How do you shave the inside of the fender flair?

And they were Altstadt.

And like I said, the only reason why they didn't fit was the offset. Nothing else prevented them from fitting.

I removed the rear rotors and rear springs once and mounted the wheels (to increase the offset, and to see how far up the wheels would go before they rubbed), they fit fine, no rubbing on the outside or inside unless I really tucked the wheel far into the fender, and the rubbed the inside of the fender.
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oops, I meant 235/35/19, my current tires are 40 series.
How do you shave the inside of the fender flair?

And they were Altstadt.

And like I said, the only reason why they didn't fit was the offset. Nothing else prevented them from fitting.

I removed the rear rotors and rear springs once and mounted the wheels (to increase the offset, and to see how far up the wheels would go before they rubbed), they fit fine, no rubbing on the outside or inside unless I really tucked the wheel far into the fender, and the rubbed the inside of the fender.
Shave it flat behind this area (flatten it out and even cut away some bumper on the inside to fit the wheels):

It did the trick for my rubbing problems!

I'll show ya next summer if your at a meet.
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Old 12-23-2003, 04:25 AM   #42
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u mean Keven? lol..

it isnt late and u still messed up Nelson!

dude, 18s are perfect for E30 and E36 IMO..19s are only good for E46, Mitch...E46 on 20s? thats pushin it..lol...

R_JAY..which rims were you considering for the 18s, and 19s? instead of asking sizes..post pics of the rim..since, it all does come down to the rim right? I think your car with some BBS RC will look SICK like Mogie's ride...or even his RS-GT..which are 18s but look tiny, and his RC are 18" too but look like 19"
I don't really have any rims in mind yet but I think i'm definitely gonna be changing.
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well u also gotta consider how low u wanan go and if u go 18's hpw high yr car will be with stock skirts etc. i wanna go 18's but i wil have too slam it and get a front lip to look decent
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well u also gotta consider how low u wanan go and if u go 18's hpw high yr car will be with stock skirts etc. i wanna go 18's but i wil have too slam it and get a front lip to look decent
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M parrallels will look pretty sick Rich! esp if u get a lip on the bumper
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