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Old 04-08-2002, 11:53 AM   #16
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True.. I could also die in such a car.. No airbags, no ABS... One of the main reasons i'm replacing it... SAFETY! Since winter is the *most* unsafe time to drive, i want my best car.. But i get what your saying..
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Old 04-08-2002, 12:40 PM   #17
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when i just got my car i had all season michelin mxv4 tires on it and drove thru the winter with me and had no problems at all that was last year.

this year i bought the Michelin Pilot Alpin which they say is better for a bimmer then the Arctic Alpin and is still H rated and also called high performance winter tire. all 4 of them cost me $600-700 but they should be fine for a few winters. the tire is great in snow and rain i took some corners in rain a bit faster then i would usually and the car didn't move anywhere.

anyway your right about the traction control without it the car wouldn't go anywhere. and djcontra there is no need to start with the 2nd gear if u have t/c .
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Old 04-08-2002, 12:42 PM   #18
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You definitely want to invest in a dedicated set of winter tires and rims/steelies. I've driven my old RWD Z3 with both ZR, M+S, and Pirelli W210 winter tires, and let me tell you, the difference in traction between the M+S and winter tires is night and day. With the M+S tires, I couldn't even make it up my driveway even though there's a slight incline and a few cm's of snow.

For obvious safety reasons, go for snow tires.
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Old 04-08-2002, 12:45 PM   #19
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So, baiscly i'll wait and see policy... I agree, if you look at the Arctic Alpine vs. Pilot Alpine, i think the Pilot's better. Simply because it's got huge ass thread's... It also says it isn't as quiet as the arctic, probably because of these bigger treads...

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when i just got my car i had all season michelin mxv4 tires on it and drove thru the winter with me and had no problems at all that was last year.

this year i bought the Michelin Pilot Alpin which they say is better for a bimmer then the Arctic Alpin and is still H rated and also called high performance winter tire. all 4 of them cost me $600-700 but they should be fine for a few winters. the tire is great in snow and rain i took some corners in rain a bit faster then i would usually and the car didn't move anywhere.

anyway your right about the traction control without it the car wouldn't go anywhere. and djcontra there is no need to start with the 2nd gear if u have t/c .
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Old 04-08-2002, 12:57 PM   #20
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Yep you dont need to start in 2nd if you have T/C but unfortunately i dont have T/C so i'm stuck doing that, I havent had any problems this winter (being my first winter with my bmw), but it is a little slippery when stopping that's all.
I had blizzaks before when i first bought the car last winter, but they were worn down so much i couldn't really comment if i liked their performance or not.
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Old 04-08-2002, 02:22 PM   #21
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Hmm, everyone seems to be using the Michellin Arctic or Pilot Alpines, are those the tires of choice for Bimmers?

Does anyone have any experience with the Nokia Hakkapeliittas or Nokia NRWs?
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Old 04-08-2002, 02:59 PM   #22
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Hmm, everyone seems to be using the Michellin Arctic or Pilot Alpines, are those the tires of choice for Bimmers?

Does anyone have any experience with the Nokia Hakkapeliittas or Nokia NRWs?
Not on my bimmer, but I have the Hakkapelittas on my girlfriend's Integra. Handles really well.
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Old 04-08-2002, 05:03 PM   #23
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Ok.. Do you guys think people should get winter tires for their FWD cars as well... How about a mix of only winter on the rear wheel tires?
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Old 04-08-2002, 05:08 PM   #24
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so you wanna grip to start, but u don't wanna steer?
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Old 04-08-2002, 05:11 PM   #25
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Ok.. I get your point... But people have done that before... Quite the comic...
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Old 04-08-2002, 05:14 PM   #26
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winter or summer tires it's still a ruber.
it's all about CHAINS
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Old 04-11-2002, 03:13 PM   #27
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if the weather gets too bad
i'll just take the TTC

sometimes (and even this year too) the weather got sooo bad that EVERYBODY was having trouble. It's just not worth risking my ride, i'll take the red rocket to work and back. I get home faster than driving in traffic with a snowstorm anyway =)

(there are some nice girls on the subway to chat with too! =)
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Old 04-11-2002, 11:29 PM   #28
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winter tires...

the answer is simply "YES"... winters tires are a must. the difference is night and day!

i have Michelin Pilot Alpins and their great. you'll spend some bucks, but you'll have lots of life on your other tires as well. so in others words, your extending the life of your summer tires!

best choice is to get a set of steel rims so u can just swap them. this way, u don't get all that salt and abuse on your oem rims!

i highly recommend winters tires.

remember, avoiding 1 single accident is worth $700 bucks! u can't put a price on that....

hope this helps.
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