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Old 07-28-2003, 10:29 PM   #1
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Question balljoint help

Hey guys, just curious abot a few things, my fender on the front passenger side has been popped out due to the tire rubbing against it. I was told that that would be due to the balljoint so i was just wondering anyone know the price on one of these babies, and is there any specific one i should get (ie. is the M3 one better, and fits a 325?) And the price difference would be great as well,
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:07 AM   #2
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ANYONE?!?!
guys i really need help on this and ANY help would be REALLY appreciated!
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:53 AM   #3
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bimmersport replaced mine a few months ago, but i forget how much it was

maybe $150 for the driver side? i can't tell u now. just give him a call or pm him. but he might not be online very often
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Old 07-29-2003, 09:20 AM   #4
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$35 for the front outer, and $45 for the inner
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Old 07-29-2003, 12:11 PM   #5
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balljoint is a balljoint, if your gonna upgrade go to something aftermarket, but they are more expensive.
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Old 07-29-2003, 10:52 PM   #6
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alright, just got the 2 balljoints from the dealer and it cost me 60 for both, so theres 2 per side?!
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Old 07-30-2003, 07:46 AM   #7
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yes there is an inner and outer on each side. and i remember how much i paid. it was $80 i think installed
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:40 PM   #8
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Just wanted to add something. The inner ball joint is a weak point in the E36's suspension. It usually needs replacement much sooner than the outer ball joint (possibly the other way around, I forget). Upgrading to anything aftermarket is very very expensive. I would suggest using stock ones and replacing them more often. It will help if you can manage to replace them yourself, because you will have to do it often in the future. Especially if you track/auto-x your car. Auto-x especially puts lots of stress on the suspension components. The parts from the dealer are relatively cheap. However, it is quite labour intensive if you don't have the right tools.

Another common weak part in the control arm is the inner control arm bushing. It needs replacement usually when the ball joints wear out. You can see if the bushing needs replacement when the rubber looks like it's being pushed out. Anyways, stock E36 bushings are just terrible. I would recommend getting E30 or E36 M3 bushings. They are much stiffer and will last WAY longer. They are $180CDN a pair from the dealer (M3) but well worth it in the long run. I believe stock ones are $60. It may be 3 times the price, but you save the labour costs of having to replace them 3 times.

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Old 07-30-2003, 05:25 PM   #9
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The inner balljoints are not removable and have to be replaced with the control arm. The outer ones develop play with as low as 20k.

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Just wanted to add something. The inner ball joint is a weak point in the E36's suspension. It usually needs replacement much sooner than the outer ball joint (possibly the other way around, I forget). Upgrading to anything aftermarket is very very expensive. I would suggest using stock ones and replacing them more often. It will help if you can manage to replace them yourself, because you will have to do it often in the future. Especially if you track/auto-x your car. Auto-x especially puts lots of stress on the suspension components. The parts from the dealer are relatively cheap. However, it is quite labour intensive if you don't have the right tools.

Another common weak part in the control arm is the inner control arm bushing. It needs replacement usually when the ball joints wear out. You can see if the bushing needs replacement when the rubber looks like it's being pushed out. Anyways, stock E36 bushings are just terrible. I would recommend getting E30 or E36 M3 bushings. They are much stiffer and will last WAY longer. They are $180CDN a pair from the dealer (M3) but well worth it in the long run. I believe stock ones are $60. It may be 3 times the price, but you save the labour costs of having to replace them 3 times.

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Old 07-30-2003, 06:40 PM   #10
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When outer ball joints are replaced the next time around that they need to be replaced replace the inner. For every out ball joint you replace every other time you replace the inner
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Old 07-30-2003, 08:07 PM   #11
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Thanks you guys for all the help!
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Ok now I'm confused. Didn't KIRASIR just say that the inner one isn't removeable and must be replaced with a whole new control arm?

Someone please clear this up!

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Okay let me repeat that again:

INNER BALLJOINTS MUST BE REPLACED WITH THE CONTROL ARMS. THEY ARE NOT REMOVABLE.

OUTER balljoints are not removable for M3s and have to changed with the control arms as well. For all the OTHER E36(including non //M Z3s) the OUTER balljoints can and should be replaced once in a while.

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Ok now I'm confused. Didn't KIRASIR just say that the inner one isn't removeable and must be replaced with a whole new control arm?

Someone please clear this up!

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Okay let me repeat that again:

INNER BALLJOINTS MUST BE REPLACED WITH THE CONTROL ARMS. THEY ARE NOT REMOVABLE.

OUTER balljoints are not removable for M3s and have to changed with the control arms as well. For all the OTHER E36(including non //M Z3s) the OUTER balljoints can and should be replaced once in a while.

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Right on! I got confused because people where telling me I need to replace my inner ball joints quite often as well without telling me I had to change the control arm. How often should you change your control arms?

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Old 07-31-2003, 04:43 PM   #15
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to clarify the whole balljoint issue, ive been told that the inners dont go as easy as the outters do, and they can just replace the inner balljoint without having to replace the whole control arm. if you have to replace the whole thing its because its recomended (or maybe its a way to get more money) ive personally seen the inners replaced on both an e30 and e36.
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