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Old 12-13-2013, 10:28 AM   #1
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Car wont start.

So usually on cold mornings it takes my car one or two tries to start. Have had no issues until yesterday.

Started it. It died. Started it again. Ran. Let it warm up a few minutes. No issues and as i was reversing out of my driveway it cut out.

Car would turn over but wouldn't start. Now its just making a clicking noise.

All power is on. Radio and everything works.

I'm guessing its the alternator... Any opinons?
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:01 AM   #2
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if its clicking but not turning over, your battery is dead, try boosting it.

if your battery is dead its likely the battery or alt need to be replaced.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:01 AM   #3
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Most likely alternator, its an easy check...
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:43 AM   #4
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Starting

Could be a few things but here is the probable direction,

1. Cranked the vehicle until the battery went flat. (clicking noise because of low battery voltage)

2.Hard starting and cutting out could be,

a) Weak battery/failed cell causing low cranking voltage. This will cause weak to no spark and the engine will flood.

b) Failing or failed fuel pump

c) Failed fuel pump relay (behind glove box)

d) Failed CCV valve (the lower chamber on the CCV valve actually freezes due to condensation) pulling oil into the intake and filling the cylinders with oil.

e) Cam or crank position sensor failure

In that order.

I would not condemn the alternator at this point has it will not affect the way the vehicle starts, unless the vehicle was driven and then the battery started to go flat while driving.

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Old 12-15-2013, 12:52 AM   #5
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Thanks guys.

I had CAA come to tow me back to my spot. I'm taking it to the mechanic this week. CAA guy tried boosting me with his little charger with no luck. Then hooked my battery up to his truck with no luck either.

Radio works. Everything lights up. But it wont turn over and then when I try it again it just clicks.

For the last few weeks when its been colder it usually didn't start on the first time but it would never take more than two attempts to get it to start.

No loss of power while driving, no weird idling, no battery light on. I just want to know what it most likely is so I can take it to the proper guy.
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Old 12-15-2013, 12:59 AM   #6
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Oh ya.. and the codes that were showing last time i checked were 0170 & 0174.
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Now it sounds more like a starter problem...
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I can see 2 related items right here. Seems to be CCV related failure.

For the last few weeks when its been colder it usually didn't start on the first time but it would never take more than two attempts to get it to start.

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d) Failed CCV valve (the lower chamber on the CCV valve actually freezes due to condensation) pulling oil into the intake and filling the cylinders with oil.
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I can see 2 related items right here. Seems to be CCV related failure.

For the last few weeks when its been colder it usually didn't start on the first time but it would never take more than two attempts to get it to start.

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d) Failed CCV valve (the lower chamber on the CCV valve actually freezes due to condensation) pulling oil into the intake and filling the cylinders with oil.
Yes, but it would not cause the "starter just clicks" situation! Even if the engine is full of oil (or water) it will still crank!!! This is just how they end up with engine damage after the CCV freezing!
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I guess until I bring it in tomorrow I wont know what the cause is but I just wanted to know which mechanic to take it to...
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Come to think of it. My oil light came on a few days before this happened. I topped up the oil and drove the next day with no issues. Then Thursday on my way to work was when it happened. It was -10 and I just thought it was due to the cold and maybe it was my battery. But when the CAA guy tried to boost me and it didn't work I figured it was the alternator.
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maybe its hydro locked........
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:53 PM   #13
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Sounds like a starter to me to, my e34 did the same and the braided positive wire was broke, soldered the sucker back on and it was good to go.
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So turns out my engine was flooded. Bad or dirty injectors causing to much gas to get into the sparkplugs. I should know exactly what is wrong tomorrow.
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if its flooding it could be lots of things (basically anything that has to do with the air/fuel mixture)

if it happens again you can always pull the fuel pump fuse, crank it until it starts, and then replace the fuse and try starting it again.
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