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Old 10-08-2013, 10:34 PM   #16
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^^yes. running a narrower than spec does cost grip in the dry, particularly under braking. did you run 235's all around? that's considerably narrower than stock in the rear, no?

having said that, i drove my m roadster on 205 winters on all four corners and it handled fine in the dry and extremely well in the snow. I'm prepared to sacrifice a little dry grip for significantly better snow performance, as in the snow is when you need the grip. (+fun).

you also want to be careful with load ratings when you go for narrower tires
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:01 AM   #17
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235/40-17 (or was it 45) is the stock size for front and back....Sport package.

Most impressive was lane changes on the 401/407 through deep slus at over 100 kph. The traction light flashes a little, but car doesn't get upset at all....
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:32 AM   #18
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You're running snows for a reason. Wet/snow traction.
Thinner snows are the best.

Since the base civic has 195, stick with that.

I once had a tire shop recommend 205's, which were on sale (dunlop's or Conti' - performance snows).

It was so bad (two wide), that I bought Goodyear Nordic's half way through the season (195). It didn't want to risk it. Under breaking, it felt like the wider snows was floating over the snow, instead of digging it.

Think "SNOW SHOES" when you buy wider snows.

I went back to thinner aggressive snows and loved it.

As an exmaple, Even the M3 has 245/265 19".
Tirerack recommends 235's all around, or 235/255.

They always recommmend a downsize when possible.
I'd run 235 (all 4) if I drove it in the winter.
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:23 PM   #19
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Yeah the 195s are the size Im going for -- just a pain shelling out 5 bills for winter boots when I know Im going to need summer boots for this ride in April next year as well.

Last year was barely a winter in southern ontario - I didnt even need the winters on the e46 back then!
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:36 PM   #20
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There are lots of decent used winters, even the classifieds here have some interesting deals.

IMO, and like dtthiaga's comment, winter driving is for chilling - no pun intended!! I'd save my dough for better summer rubber.... for the bimmer - not your beater.... Put the 60% Flipflops back on in the spring.....

Ughhhh - I hate to do this, but I've decided to drive the M5 this winter. No more company car - I've already started driving it in the rain. I considered a winter beater but instead I'm going to drive the wire's Odyssey if the weather is bad. I'll drive the M5 on dry road conditions, but I'll have my used snows in case I get caught.

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Old 10-10-2013, 11:46 AM   #21
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The M5 should be fun with the traction control off in the snow

And agreed on the boots for the beater - dont want to spend much but then again we will have kids in the car with us on and off and just for comfort of mind id rather go for a decent tire than a chinese one - so leaning towards the continentals at the moment -

Thanks for all the inputs guys - will see how the civic does this winter.....just a few more weeks of driving the E90 before its time to take over the Civic for the winter - Im going to enjoy pumping regular gas instead of premium at the gas station till its time to bring the E90 out of her sleep

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:09 PM   #22
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Hey there

Chris from Z RAcing we are a sponsor on this forum, I can happily match your price from Tire Rack, and include balancing and installation for that cost.

For example on the X-Ice in a 195/65/15 with shipping from Tire Rack would be about 550 shipped, (that only includes taxes, no brokerage which will add a few hundred dollars)

I can do them for the same only I will include installation and balancing as well.

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:21 PM   #23
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Thanks for the details Chris. Shot a PM your way.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:02 PM   #24
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id go 185's if it was me I usually step down a width or two.
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:59 PM   #25
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Chris from Z RAcing we are a sponsor on this forum, I can happily match your price from Tire Rack, and include balancing and installation for that cost.



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Does this apply for everyone? I'll need some summer rubber next spring for sure! PS2s still have a one or two of track days left in them....

Hmmmmm - Super Sport? RS2? Direzza Z2...... daydreaming again....
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:03 PM   #26
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Hey there

Chris from Z RAcing we are a sponsor on this forum, I can happily match your price from Tire Rack, and include balancing and installation for that cost.

For example on the X-Ice in a 195/65/15 with shipping from Tire Rack would be about 550 shipped, (that only includes taxes, no brokerage which will add a few hundred dollars)

I can do them for the same only I will include installation and balancing as well.

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Now that is stepping up as a sponsor. Support this guy, people!
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:08 PM   #27
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Hey there

Chris from Z RAcing we are a sponsor on this forum, I can happily match your price from Tire Rack, and include balancing and installation for that cost.

For example on the X-Ice in a 195/65/15 with shipping from Tire Rack would be about 550 shipped, (that only includes taxes, no brokerage which will add a few hundred dollars)

I can do them for the same only I will include installation and balancing as well.

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This is great! Does it only apply to winter tires?
You should advertise this more.
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:54 PM   #28
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Well always do our best for the MaxBimmer guys as we are a forum sponsor, but heck no im not going to be beat having stuff shipped from the states

Anything you need give us a call or PM us and ask for Chris or Sam.
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Old 10-10-2013, 03:56 PM   #29
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Also we can order pretty much anything, I don't stock track tires generally, but can get them in 1-3 days
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:37 PM   #30
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Sweet! I'm going to have to mark this down!

Btw - I'm sure I can bring some more customers - not Bimmers tho!!! doh

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