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Old 09-25-2013, 08:03 PM   #46
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I agree...I just drove down East this summer. The worst spots were West of
Oshawa and all of Quebec! Other than that, driving was incident free!

The 401 from Oshawa all the way to Niagara is very aggressive with very little etiquette...nothing we can do about it but not be part of the problem!
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:26 AM   #47
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Go look at the stats.
Most collisions involve new drivers or new immigrants.

BS Robb.....My buddy been a traffic cop for 25 years and he catches all sort of bad drivers,it all depends on certain areas your in,of course cops in Brampton would catch more immigrants compared to Oshawa.He said most drivers he catches aren't teenagers but adults too busy not paying attention to the traffic or in a hurry to go some where.Police do not release stats on race,religion or colour.So get off your high horse and stop blaming "new immigrants" for accidents.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:00 PM   #48
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People are actually defending the left lane campers in this thread, are you kidding me.

My plate is

"KP RIGHT"

135i.

Hopefully you'll understand the middle finger I give you as I pass you on the right after flashing my highbeams at you and you don't MOVE OVER.
U must be the genius that does this when there is heavy volume and think of u pass one guy ull gey ahead of the pack
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:03 PM   #49
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U must be the genius that does this when there is heavy volume and think of u pass one guy ull gey ahead of the pack
Yeah, cuz I'm going to burn 94 octane @350+whp just to slam on the brakes in 5 seconds.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:18 PM   #50
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12pm on 401 from Toronto westbound, light traffic, everytime. gtfo out the left lane I know you see those high beams...
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #51
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I have no issues moving over but let's say I'm going 1xx km/h in the left lane and someone speeds up right behind me.. The next few seconds of etiquette dictates whether I move or not.. The issue I find is the jackass looking to pass usually trails the bumper just short of making contact.. Let's be honest, we've all seen it many times.. That's the jackass I won't move for
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:19 AM   #52
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I have no issues moving over but let's say I'm going 1xx km/h in the left lane and someone speeds up right behind me.. The next few seconds of etiquette dictates whether I move or not.. The issue I find is the jackass looking to pass usually trails the bumper just short of making contact.. Let's be honest, we've all seen it many times.. That's the jackass I won't move for


I can't agree more. That's why I enjoy not letting this kind of suckers pass me. I usually whatever I can do keep them behind me. They are the ones who have no etiquette in the first place. If they want my spot, they have to earn it. If they are in a hurry, go use a helicopter or get a faster car than mine.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:41 AM   #53
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I can't agree more. That's why I enjoy not letting this kind of suckers pass me. I usually whatever I can do keep them behind me. They are the ones who have no etiquette in the first place. If they want my spot, they have to earn it. If they are in a hurry, go use a helicopter or get a faster car than mine.
depends.

my car can coast for a while without losing speed.

So I find my self in some interesting situations. For example say ill be doing 115-120 on the DVP on the left lane. Some times I will come upon slower traffic in the left lane. Perhaps he is trying to pass someone, or there is a bit more volume so it's hard for him to get out of the way quickly enough.

I will just coast the car. Usually I will come up fairly close to the other driver 1-2-3- car lengths. But that is because I have timed it. When I released my foot off the gas I knew I would begin to decelerate just as I got close enough. Then after that initial "closeness" I will go back to my "2 second gap".

I hate taping the break because then I lose all my speed and momentum. so I guess I look like an asshole.

But to be fair, if you are going to initiate a pass, you should do it quickly. You shouldn't be passing someone that is going 100km/h, when you yourself are going 105km/h.

But I love how you guys get offended. To the point that if someone does come up behind you and shows poor etiquette, you would try to box them in, or make it difficult for them to pass you. Not sure what purpose that serves other than to raise each others blood pressure and frustration. You should just let it go. Who honestly cares?

There are too many annoying drivers out there that dont know how to drive, cant teach them all.. As well people make mistakes.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:22 AM   #54
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I don't make an effort to box them in at all.. I just continue driving as if they weren't there.

Tailgating is dangerous not only because it may cause you to get rear ended, but also because it may cause some people to get startled and move quickly into the next right lane in an unsafe manner just to get out of the way .. What I do is to remain calm.. If dude wants to drive like a maniac let him .. Let him weave around traffic to an eventual collision.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #55
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I have no issues moving over but let's say I'm going 1xx km/h in the left lane and someone speeds up right behind me.. The next few seconds of etiquette dictates whether I move or not.. The issue I find is the jackass looking to pass usually trails the bumper just short of making contact.. Let's be honest, we've all seen it many times.. That's the jackass I won't move for
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I can't agree more. That's why I enjoy not letting this kind of suckers pass me. I usually whatever I can do keep them behind me. They are the ones who have no etiquette in the first place. If they want my spot, they have to earn it. If they are in a hurry, go use a helicopter or get a faster car than mine.
Ya, don't you guys feel like this is just making the situation worse? You are now forcing the person who wants to travel faster to pass in the right lanes to continue on their course. You state that you actually make an effort to restrict an unknown stranger. This seems asinine to me. Don't worry yourself with other peoples actions, don't get your blood pressure raising and keep that stress down. You will live a longer happier life I can only assume....
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #56
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depends.

my car can coast for a while without losing speed.

So I find my self in some interesting situations. For example say ill be doing 115-120 on the DVP on the left lane. Some times I will come upon slower traffic in the left lane. Perhaps he is trying to pass someone, or there is a bit more volume so it's hard for him to get out of the way quickly enough.

I will just coast the car. Usually I will come up fairly close to the other driver 1-2-3- car lengths. But that is because I have timed it. When I released my foot off the gas I knew I would begin to decelerate just as I got close enough. Then after that initial "closeness" I will go back to my "2 second gap".

I hate taping the break because then I lose all my speed and momentum. so I guess I look like an asshole.

But to be fair, if you are going to initiate a pass, you should do it quickly. You shouldn't be passing someone that is going 100km/h, when you yourself are going 105km/h.

But I love how you guys get offended. To the point that if someone does come up behind you and shows poor etiquette, you would try to box them in, or make it difficult for them to pass you. Not sure what purpose that serves other than to raise each others blood pressure and frustration. You should just let it go. Who honestly cares?

There are too many annoying drivers out there that dont know how to drive, cant teach them all.. As well people make mistakes.
I agree with the coasting thing. I do that all the time because there is no point going full speed to a dead stop traffic or red light.

But there many annoying drivers think they can actually speed pass the dead stop traffic ahead of me. It benefits no one if I go full speed ahead then slam on my brakes. It is under this circumstance that the tailgaters annoy me the most. And I will box them as much as I can and proudly so.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:36 AM   #57
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Ya, don't you guys feel like this is just making the situation worse? You are now forcing the person who wants to travel faster to pass in the right lanes to continue on their course. You state that you actually make an effort to restrict an unknown stranger. This seems asinine to me. Don't worry yourself with other peoples actions, don't get your blood pressure raising and keep that stress down. You will live a longer happier life I can only assume....
But passing me won't get them any faster than the traffic in front, then why should I give away the position? I would rather keep the space in front of me for a safer stopping distance.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:34 PM   #58
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But passing me won't get them any faster than the traffic in front, then why should I give away the position? I would rather keep the space in front of me for a safer stopping distance.
Assuming no one is in front of you, I can't understand why you wouldn't move over? People usually don't tailgate in traffic, they just bunch up. No one is arguing that you should move then, it's when the road is clear in front of you and open to your right.

Usually if I can see that the road in front of the person is clear, I may inch up if they show no signs of moving over to let them know I want to pass. I only do that when I'm not really in a rush, if I was in a rush I'd just pass on the right. My hope is that the person in front would realize what they are doing and get out of the left lane. By getting them to move over, I hope they then become aware that they are a left lane hog, and we have one less left lane doosh on the roads.

Sometimes I feel like getting one of these and have a friendly message 'As a courtesy to other drivers keep right except to pass'
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:00 PM   #59
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If the traffic is light I won't even be on the left lane. I'm talking about when all the lanes are parked with cars during rush hour.

People drive like nuts during rush hour traffice on DVP and 401. I'm not driving a big SUV that would obscure the visibility for the cars behind me. They should be able to see the long queue ahead of me even if their air heads didn't realize it's morning/evening rush hour traffic in Toronto. There will be always cars in front of me going 10 km/h even if I'm driving a Zonda I wont't be going any faster.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:32 PM   #60
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If the traffic is light I won't even be on the left lane. I'm talking about when all the lanes are parked with cars during rush hour.

People drive like nuts during rush hour traffice on DVP and 401. I'm not driving a big SUV that would obscure the visibility for the cars behind me. They should be able to see the long queue ahead of me even if their air heads didn't realize it's morning/evening rush hour traffic in Toronto. There will be always cars in front of me going 10 km/h even if I'm driving a Zonda I wont't be going any faster.
not much u can do about that unfortuantely. people are just dumb.

the best is when the road is full of traffic and u see them tailgatting u... then they pull out to the right to over take you, but there is no WHERE for them to go. So they try to pull up and squeeze infront of you. But I always close the gap and make it almost impossible for them to get infront of me.

Id rather be driving behind someone that I can see is not tailgaiting the person infront of them, than a "speedster" retard that thinks they are going to hop skip 5 cars to get a head.
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