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Old 08-10-2013, 10:42 AM   #61
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first shots was justify the last 6 plus tazer wasnt.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:43 AM   #62
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Shouldn't the first shot have been a non-lethal shot. A 9mm hollow point at centre mass is enough to drop someone and their chance of death is pretty small.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:50 AM   #63
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I would say EVERYBODY is wrong in this situation:

If a cop asks you to drop the knife (or whatever): YOU DO IT!!!

If a teenage suspect, outnumbered, cornered, armed with a knife comes to you: SHOOT him in the leg!!! Or just try talking to him, maybe!

I cant pick who gets the Bigger Idiot award...
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Old 08-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #64
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funny how no thread was made last year when a nutbar in a stolen snow plow used it to run over and kill an officer, who was a good cop, husband, and father.

If you want to see something done, join the police force and make the difference.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:33 PM   #65
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^^^ Being a cop is one of the safest jobs in Canada, look up how many have been killed on the job!
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Old 08-11-2013, 03:52 PM   #66
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funny how no thread was made last year when a nutbar in a stolen snow plow used it to run over and kill an officer, who was a good cop, husband, and father.

If you want to see something done, join the police force and make the difference.
LOL the cop stood in front of the plow with his hand out yelling stop stop stop.

Sucks, but thats not how you stop a plow. Also don't think the "nutbar" wanted to intentionally kill the cop.

I've seen cops RUN onto the street to pull over speeding vehicles. On lakeshore, going east bound, near the Jameson highway off ramp, police setup radar on the large hill by the legion hall there. The cop ran onto on comming traffic to pull a guy over.
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:12 PM   #67
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If funny when the firefighters and cops says they deserve the high salaries because of the danger of the occupation but more people die in construction every year than all cops and firefighters died the last 25 years.The cop who shot "sammy" made over $100k in less than 7 years service,he must have been putting tons of overtime.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:15 PM   #68
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Accidents and injuries in construction are usually avoidable, they're the result of failed adherence to safety codes and regulations or they're freak accidents. For first responders like cops and firefighters, dealing with dangerous (firefighters especially) situations is the name of the game, so I don't think that you can compare them so easily.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:09 PM   #69
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in the states firefighters and cops make like $35-45K a year to start. and i think they max out at something like 75k after 30 years on the service.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #70
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anyone hear of: The Millionaire Cop Next Door
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It’s said that government workers now make, on average, 30% more than private-sector workers. Put that fantasy aside. It far underestimates the real figures. By my calculations government workers make more than twice as much. They are America’s fastest-growing group of millionaires.

Doubt it? Then ask yourself: What is the net present value of an $80,000 annual pension payout with additional full health benefits? Working backward the total NPV would depend on expected returns of a basket of safe investments–blue-chip stocks, dividends and U.S. Treasury bonds.

Investment pros such as my friend Barry Glassman of Glassman Wealth Services say 4% is a good, safe return today. But that’s a pitiful yield, isn’t it? It’s sure to disappoint the millions of baby boomers who will soon enter retirement with nothing more than their desiccated 401(k)s–down 30% on average from 30 months ago–and a bit of Social Security.

Based on this small but unfortunately realistic 4% return, an $80,000 annual pension payout implies a rather large pot of money behind it–$2 million, to be precise. That’s a lot. One might guess that a $2 million stash would be in the 95th percentile for the 77 million baby boomers who will soon face retirement.

That $2 million also happens to be the implied booty of your average California policeman who retires at age 55. Typical cities in California have a police officer’s retirement plan that works as follows: 3% at age 50. As the North County Times of Carlsbad, Calif. explains: “Carlsbad offers its police and firefighters a ’3-percent-at-50′ retirement plan, meaning that emergency services workers who retire at age 50 can get 3% of their highest salary times the number of years they have worked for the city. City officials have said that in Carlsbad the average firefighter or police officer typically retires at age 55 and has 28 years of service. Using the 3% salary calculation, that person would receive an annual city pension of $76,440.”

Who are America’s fastest-growing class of millionaires? They are police officers, firefighters, teachers and federal bureaucrats, who, unless things change drastically, will be paid something near their full salaries every year–until death–after retiring in their mid-50s. That is equivalent to a retirement sum worth millions of dollars.

If you further ask how much salary it would take to live, save and build a $2 million stash over a 30-year career, the answer would be somewhere close to $75,000 more than the nominal salary, if you include all the tax bites associated with earning, saving and investing money.

In other words, if a police officer, firefighter, teacher or federal bureaucrat is making $75,000 a year he or she is effectively making twice that amount. Implied in the annual pension payout is that the individual diligently saved half of his annual salary–after taxes–in order to save, invest and build (again, after taxes) the near $2 million pot.

So when you hear that government workers now make, on average, 30% more than private-sector workers, you’re not getting the full story. Government workers, on average, make more than twice as much as private-sector workers when you include the net present value of their pensions.

How long can this last?


http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/06...next-door.html
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:20 PM   #71
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yes, this subject relates to salaries, and to hear people laughing at the death of an officer is sad.

Easy to cry about it, most people are too lazy to go trough with getting a job with police or fire department's. that article is part of a current corporate trend to break unions, no one would make what they do, have any beniffiets, vacations, decent working conditions if it wasn't for unions. But if you just want to believe the press and be good little piggies, well do as they say, and let them tell you otherwise.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:00 PM   #72
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yes, this subject relates to salaries, and to hear people laughing at the death of an officer is sad.

Easy to cry about it, most people are too lazy to go trough with getting a job with police or fire department's. that article is part of a current corporate trend to break unions, no one would make what they do, have any beniffiets, vacations, decent working conditions if it wasn't for unions. But if you just want to believe the press and be good little piggies, well do as they say, and let them tell you otherwise.
a) It sucks an officer died. It's comical that he died trying to stop a snow plow. It's interesting that no info was released on what actually happened because I am 90% certain he stood infront of the plow.

b) I am all for unions, you can look up my post history, HOWEVER that being said, you would be naive to think that those fat union pension plans are self reliant. Most pension plans are under water and need tax payer money to survive. What you don't understand is that the baby boomer generation screweed all of us. You see they created an amazing system. They get their 2 million dollar pension plans, but in reality it's all the young guys that have to foot the bill.

Why do you think there are so many economic problems? You don't think it's all corelated?

In any case, you make more moeny in the private sector and can go further.

c) It's not tough to be a cop. But I'd rather do something else. Thanks though.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:02 PM   #73
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reading some of these comments really 'boggles my mind'
You're just thinking what everyone on this site thinks of you.

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and it is really weird/improper that the cop waits 3-4 seconds before pumping another 6 bullets into a body currently laying on the ground
It's weird/improper? Why is that, because you're full of crap?

In the video you posted, I can actually hear just before the cop fires the last 6 shots that he yells "put it down" so to me, that means the kid wasn't disarmed and was still a threat. The other thing about all of this is you don't know how many of the first 3 shots hit him, hell you don't even know if he was hit at all!

Nor do you know how many bullets hit in him the end, and I would assume that he was still alive and even a threat when the next cop went on to the street car and had to (apparently from sound in the video) tase him.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:04 PM   #74
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Really though, was he really a threat? Do you really believe that, or just playing devils advocate.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:29 PM   #75
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Really though, was he really a threat? Do you really believe that, or just playing devils advocate.
The training they get on the matter is anyone with a knife within 21ft of themselves or a civilian is considered an imidiate threat, which corilates to the 2.5 seconds that the average person can travel and do harm with the knife (knife is a knife, regardless of size). By that standard yes be was technically a threat

None of use were there, and are making judgements against them from a cell phone video.
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