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Old 06-13-2013, 07:29 PM   #16
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I have the same rust issues and would like to know what shop will just address the infected area's only instead of saying they have to paint half the damn car at $3000+. It's a 10+ year old car worth about $6000 (in my case) so spending $3000 in paint just doesn't make sense.
I'm in the same boat. Someone should find a shop and work out a group buy. lol
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:36 PM   #17
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Let me know I'm down Guelphguy and Dysantic

I know these guys would do a perfect job.

http://www.europeanautobody.com/
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #18
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from the rust spot on your trunk i can tell you the whole thing under the rubber seal will be rotted.

my advice is either fix everything properly or live with it until you dump the car.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:30 AM   #19
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thats not necessarily true(rotted under the seal)
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:32 AM   #20
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Alright thanks for everyone input... who else needs rust work done to their car? maybe we can get the group deal going
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Old 06-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #21
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ivan show a pic of what's under the seal plz.
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Car is in the shop getting AC fixed
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:44 PM   #23
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Rust is like an iceberg, you only see 10% of it. I hope you understand that when repairing rust spots you can be "chasing" the rust for a very long distance.

I remember 5 years ago fixing a friends E30 battery tray, what looked like just a spot of surface rust turned into a hole x5 the size of the original spot of rust.

+1 on rust underneath the seals.
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Hey ivan i just used some polishing compound so you can see a bit better..

here is the now picture (i couldn't lift up the seal though)


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Old 06-14-2013, 09:32 PM   #25
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Jeez, my 88 civic, 90 crx, 91 civic dont even have that much rust !
I guess metal isnt as good as it used to be to save cost ?
I see alot of newer Mazdas and Fords rust like crazy too !
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ya mazdas are TERRRIBLE.

thats totally surface in that section. doesnt mean it shoudnt be protected from the back/underside but I doubt that goes right through...



anyways..quick check at real oem shows its exactly liek the e36 is.. a piece that you can order. and its not all that expensive. something to consider doing.

part # for sedan 41347063570

rather than a patch job it may be worth while just just replace that whole piece. obviously your judgement call. seeing the cleaned up pic id personally attempt another fix at a proper place(that grinds,blasts, cleans it up proper. paints from both sides(you can reach the inside) and see how that goes first. IF you still have the car and it returns. then id opt for the replacement part.
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So thats the whole rear quarter panel SiR?
I was hoping that part under the trunk could be its own part too lol

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Old 06-16-2013, 02:10 PM   #28
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Hello,

The rust on your E46 does not look that bad. You can address it your self at a reasonable cost. I have a lot of experience fixing worse rust than what I see on your car.

1) remove the rwr bumper to see how involved the rust is.

If its just surface rust, grind it down to the metal and use the P0R-15 to cover the repair.

The process is easy. Use their marine clean to remove the grease, then their metal ready product to naturalize the rust, then apply the P0R 15. Let it sit for 8 hours. Lightly sand the p0R 15, apply a good filler, finish sand and then paint. Do not sand through the p0R 15!


For the trunk, remove the seal and repeat the above procedure.

I have done this 100's of times and have fixed all my rust issues. I swear by this type of repair. After your repair is done, apply a rust coating like Krown on the back side of the repair. You can buy a bottle for $10.00. You can also use a cavity spray wax.

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Old 06-17-2013, 11:45 AM   #29
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So thats the whole rear quarter panel SiR?
I was hoping that part under the trunk could be its own part too lol
thats what that part is. the rear tail section.

its not very expensive($2xx) but labour will be up there.
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thats what that part is. the rear tail section.

its not very expensive($2xx) but labour will be up there.
From what I remember, that piece is welded on.
- Right and left inside the trunk, and also outside.
- That's a lot of labour!!

It's not worth replacing the piece (unless you had an accident).
You would be better off cutting around the rusted area, and put a patch panel in.

Also remember, the trunk rubber seal seems to have a thin bead of metal in the rubber (lower portion). This seems to be where the rust starts, and spreads to the body.

Have that rubber checked/replaced.
(Seals and Moldings with metal inside always rusts. It's a bad design. The early 90's Honda had this type of trim. Most companies have moved away from that.

AlpWhitE46, your trunk rust is pretty big though.
It's not really surface rust at this point. You will have deep pits.
The panel can be saved though at minimal cost.

EuropeanAutobody is really over kill for an E46.
You really shouldn't be spending more than 1/4 of the car's value on body work.
It's not worth it unless you plan on keeping it for the next 10 years or it's a classic.

Before you do rust work, take pictures.
You should keep some documentation that it was only rust and not an accident, when you are selling the car.


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