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Old 05-18-2016, 10:43 PM   #1
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No shell 91 in toronto



Apparently they're having supply issues. anyone have more info? i've heard 2-3 weeks.

Weston & finch is out, keele and rogers rd is out, islington & dundas still has some i just fueled up and filled my jerry cans.

goddamn r6 runs like shit on anything but their 91
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:05 PM   #2
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Apparently they're having supply issues. anyone have more info? i've heard 2-3 weeks.
Refill Trucks stuck in traffic on 401...
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Old 05-25-2016, 09:47 PM   #3
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Had this issue today in Caledon.
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Old 05-26-2016, 01:09 AM   #4
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No problems in DT TO. I filled up the car yesterday and the bike today
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:21 PM   #5
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Richmond Hill was fine the other day too.
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:00 PM   #6
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Pickering was fine Thursday
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Old 05-27-2016, 03:31 PM   #7
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Didn't have any issues in scarborough. Fill up my cars and my R6 with 91 from shell yesterday.
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Old 05-28-2016, 07:41 PM   #8
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How about the Petro Can / Sunoco 94? Is Shell 91 better?
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if you run ethanol (ANYTHING other than shell 91 and its resellers) you are getting 5-10% ethanol. Your fuel efficiency will be 5-10% worse. ethanol in gas is stupid and there's no benefit from it.

the shell at islington/dundas has consistently had premium, so this is not toronto-wide.
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No way!!! So there's free power to be unlocked in my M5??? mmmmuuuuuuwwwaaaaahhhaaahaha!

I'm glad I asked! Thanks!!!
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I just noticed my local gas station has it.... I rarely fill up there, but that's going to change.

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I think Canadian Tire 91 and Costco 91 are also ethanol free
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Honestly, my E46 runs better on PetroCanada 91, compared to Shell V-Power.

Other observations:
- E46 runs fine on PetroCanada 87
- E46 runs like complete crap on Shell 87
- ESSO probably has a twigs & pebbles grade - all cars ever filled there run like garbage.
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Wtf???

The only issue I've ever had is any station, less than 91 in the m5... Drives fine unless you start pushing... It'll go into limp mode almost immediately.
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if you run ethanol (ANYTHING other than shell 91 and its resellers) you are getting 5-10% ethanol. Your fuel efficiency will be 5-10% worse. ethanol in gas is stupid and there's no benefit from it.

the shell at islington/dundas has consistently had premium, so this is not toronto-wide.
Another bad thing with ethanol is that it's more corrosive. Newer cars have fuel systems designed for ethanol, but older cars (I believe E46 included) were not specifically designed for it. "They" say it's safe for use 10% but they care more about subsidizing corn growers than maintenance on your older car.

Ethanol also produces more water as a waste product, which can cause more of that yellow goo we get in our CCV system in the winter.

There is an upside to E85 ethanol when used in allowing high boost for turbo applications.

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Honestly, my E46 runs better on PetroCanada 91, compared to Shell V-Power.

Other observations:
- E46 runs fine on PetroCanada 87
- E46 runs like complete crap on Shell 87
- ESSO probably has a twigs & pebbles grade - all cars ever filled there run like garbage.
It's been a while since I've run 87 in my E46, but it was certainly down on power and running a bit rough.
I wonder if you had less issues with Petro 87 due to higher ethanol content? ie. higher knock resistance.
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