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Old 05-26-2013, 10:10 PM   #1
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E39 Sedan Subframe Bushings?

Has anyone changed their E39 sedan subframe bushings?

My subframe bushings look a little worn and the rear suspension is 6mm offset from left to right side. (left side wheel base and right side wheel base is 6mm different)

I am thinking of buying the tool and replacing all 4 subframe bushings PLUS the front diff bushing.
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Old 06-22-2013, 12:05 PM   #2
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Update: got the bushings and the bushing tool is on its way from the UK.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:12 PM   #3
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The Franklin AFT45 Rear Subframe Bush Tool arrived today. It weighs 12 pounds and is very high quality.

Next week I will pull out the rear subframe and change the bushings.
My rear subframe has twisted as the bushings on the right side have failed.
This resulted in the right side wheelbase is 6mm longer than the left.
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:01 AM   #4
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Good luck with the work, I'm really interested in how it turns out (if you need a hand, let me know).

If you can document the procedure into a DIY, it would be awesome.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:51 PM   #5
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Are these cars known to have subframe issues?
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:38 PM   #6
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Are these cars known to have subframe issues?
Subframe no, bushings YES. Unlike smaller cars that have solid mounted subframe, the 5, 7, and X5 all have rubber bushings (4) that go bad over time (unavoidable). In some cases I have seen them completely torn, so the subframe is hanging on that corner! I cant even start to imagine how a car like this handles...
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:42 PM   #7
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Here is my 530's subframe with the existing bushings...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BY1nmw18o

I was quite surprised how much the subframe moves on the 1-2 shift.
It will be interesting to see if new bushings reduce this movement.

I am starting to remove the subframe in 10 minutes... Wish me luck!
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:03 PM   #8
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Subframe is out and diff removed... Now removing diff bushings.
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:38 AM   #9
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All bushings changed and ready to go back in. 3 out of the 4 bushings had 1/4" tears in the rubber. The Franklyn AFT45 tool is fantasic!
(I love this pic!!)
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:48 PM   #10
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Subframe is back in and bolted up. All that is left to do is exhaust and brake calipers.
Test drive tomorrow!
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Did you use to own a maxima before?
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Wow, you are a brave, brave man!
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Did you use to own a maxima before?
Yes I did. Why?
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Wow, you are a brave, brave man!
It looks more scary than it really is. The hardest part was getting in the rear diff bushings. They didn't want to go in straight.

First test drive went well, now going for ice cream (and more 75w90 gear oil for the diff)
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Yes I did. Why?
I think i used to use your maxima DIY site back in the VQ30DE-k days! lol. Really appreciate your effort and knowledge you put into it. It helped me (and others) alot.
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