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11-05-2012, 04:22 AM
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Modeldater
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Twice As Nice: Pair of E30 M3 Sport Evos in the UK.
There are some things that words just can't capture the magnificence of. The car of all cars. Two times, two colours, two and a half litres of perfection to the power of two. And of course, they're in the UK (surprise surprise) and for sale.
http://www.4starclassics.com/BMW-M3-...ions-For-Sale/
Too many great pictures on the 4 Star Classic website to post up, so I'll just post a few - In case some wealthy afficionado defies the expression "more money than taste" and in an act of superb judgement snatches them both up  .
Enjoy.
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11-05-2012, 11:03 AM
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6th Gear Member
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As much as I understand that these cars are/can be collector cars... who the hell will pay that much ($250k CND) for them and who would want two mint ones in the first place?
Makes no sense to me. You will never get the money back out of them at that price especially if you drive them.
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11-05-2012, 01:54 PM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
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plenty of numbers matching muscle cars command that kind of price.
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11-05-2012, 01:58 PM
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is BMW crazy
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I think they are definitely desirable, collectible and worth a good chunk of money.
If I was very wealthy and building a car collection (which I would), that red one would definitely find its way into my collection for 125 Large.
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11-05-2012, 02:46 PM
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Life begins at 4000rpm
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Car: 86 E30 332is
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  thanks for sharing!
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11-05-2012, 06:07 PM
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Drivin' new whips weekly
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Car: 740Sport, GT-R & E30
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I think I felt it move a bit
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11-05-2012, 06:29 PM
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Wheelman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bmwm5lover
I think they are definitely desirable, collectible and worth a good chunk of money.
If I was very wealthy and building a car collection (which I would), that red one would definitely find its way into my collection for 125 Large.
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agreed
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11-05-2012, 07:35 PM
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EX E30 M3 Owner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: North York
Posts: 2,358
Car: old skool Hondas
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hmm...
Time to check my lotto max ticket...lol
Money comes and goes, 2 mint EVO III's dont !!!!!!
btw, this one is in Etobicoke, registered under Eurospec imports LTD
http://www.s14.ctmnet.de/0147/0147.htm
Last edited by Robb; 11-05-2012 at 07:45 PM.
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11-06-2012, 04:53 AM
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Modeldater
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: GTA/Munich
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Car: BMW M3/TRD Supra
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robb
hmm...
Time to check my lotto max ticket...lol
Money comes and goes, 2 mint EVO III's dont !!!!!!
btw, this one is in Etobicoke, registered under Eurospec imports LTD
http://www.s14.ctmnet.de/0147/0147.htm
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Yup, that link, IIRC is the previous owner of the car before it was imported and sold through Willz. Although the new owner asked to remain anonymous, wasn't the word around the campfire that he is a surgeon from somewhere north of the GTA?
Also, the person above who made the comment about the muscle cars has a very good point which comes into question for me as well. Classic muscle cars routinely command these prices and let's face it, what have they really done? If we look at the racing pedigree and what it takes to define a true collectors sports automobile, I think the Sport Evos are certainly worth their weight in gold. Obviously there are some people who are bias towards these cars, and I admit I am one of them. For that reason, if I was rich enough, this would be a no brainer purchase for me ( Brilliantrot please  ). This is the most successful racing car on any continent in the history of automobiles, no other manufacture can lay stake to that claim... let's let that sink in fellas  .
The "collector" car market has been steadily increasing, and in numerous cases leaping ahead in recent years. At the higher end, prices have gone up 50%-100%, a perfect example being early 911s & Carrera RS's. I saw the sale of two early 911's recently in west Germany, and admittedly not being too well versed in the early 911 or early Porsche market value scene, I was still amazed when I saw the asking prices. Even more so to see that they sold with very little effort. Numerous older Porsches, some Benzes, Dinos, Iso Grifos, F40s, Jaguars, AM's etc. have shot up in price within the collector car market. Granted, these cars are all in different classes, or better put, spectrums of appeal. Many "newer" classics have not headed north yet, but in the case of the above examples, many of them were $40-80k cars within the last decade and now they are pretty much all well into the 6-figure range. There's an old saying that a rising tide lifts all boats.
That being said, if you look at the 1980's there aren't that many cars that have a devotional following, visible impact, drivers connection, and perhaps most importantly - historical importance - like the E30 M3.
Another interesting angle to look at it from, and this is just more food for thought; perhaps to help develop this interesting discussion, is that BMW M Motorsports is arguably the most decorated motorsports division of any automobile manufacturer. In that case, we are here discussing what many consider to be the most prominent piece of M Motorsport history and the pinnacle of their achievements.
Cliffs notes: My gosh I love these cars lol.. and older BMWs in general.
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11-06-2012, 07:18 AM
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the misanthropist
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For the record, a precious few old muscle cars will fetch money like this. There are plenty of absolutely mint, kickass muscle cars you can get for 20-40 grand. The ones that fetch big money are the ultra rare, most desirable package, original (not replacement panels) cars like a Hemi Daytona in mint, non-restored condition. Something like a transmission and seat option, or some option package, can make a difference of 100k+.
I'm not saying that these cars are overpriced, only that the collector car market is a very strange beast. People try to put some kind of method to it but what it really comes down to is having 2 or more rich guys who have a boner for this exact car because they couldn't have one back when they were poor. They drive the price up, trying to outbid one another, and the one to give up last, gets it and that's what it's "worth". Like the 300SL Gullwing... it's really a pretty crappy car but back in its day, it was the car you dreamt about owning because in your mind, it guaranteed to get you any ass you could want. So they sell for millions.
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11-06-2012, 07:23 AM
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2nd Gear Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigD
For the record, a precious few old muscle cars will fetch money like this. There are plenty of absolutely mint, kickass muscle cars you can get for 20-40 grand. The ones that fetch big money are the ultra rare, most desirable package, original (not replacement panels) cars like a Hemi Daytona in mint, non-restored condition. Something like a transmission and seat option, or some option package, can make a difference of 100k+.
I'm not saying that these cars are overpriced, only that the collector car market is a very strange beast. People try to put some kind of method to it but what it really comes down to is having 2 or more rich guys who have a boner for this exact car because they couldn't have one back when they were poor. They drive the price up, trying to outbid one another, and the one to give up last, gets it and that's what it's "worth". Like the 300SL Gullwing... it's really a pretty crappy car but back in its day, it was the car you dreamt about owning because in your mind, it guaranteed to get you any ass you could want. So they sell for millions.
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You can get a plymouth roadrunner for 35k, but a superbird will cost you 100k more than that. Same thing is happening with these m3's. A normal m3 can fetch 30k in mint shape, but it is the rarity and originality of these evo 3's that commands the higher price.
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11-06-2012, 09:51 AM
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EX E30 M3 Owner
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: North York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M-TRD3
Although the new owner asked to remain anonymous, wasn't the word around the campfire that he is a surgeon from somewhere north of the GTA?
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Dunno, but it is registered in Etobicoke under Eurospec Imports Ltd licence plate AVLV 515
For that kind of money though, Id buy a real DTM / BTCC E30 M3 and bragg about it at the racetrack. LoL
http://www.classicdriver.de/de/find/...lCarID=1850929
Last edited by Robb; 11-06-2012 at 09:57 AM.
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11-06-2012, 10:01 AM
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EX E30 M3 Owner
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11-06-2012, 10:07 AM
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6th Gear Member
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Location: Port Perry
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robb
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Admittedly, one of my favorite DTM cars... but wtf, would not be down to pay the extra 100k to Art and Revs just for a 'cosmetic restoration'!
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