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Old 02-10-2012, 09:08 AM   #1
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van/pickup truck recommendations



I've always hated pickup trucks but now that i'm moving into a house (from a condo) and i'm starting to think of all the DIY projects i plan on doing i think i'm gunna need somethin that i can haul stuff around in. I know nothing about minivans/pickups. But i was surprised when i checked out some reviews on a 2004 chevrolet 1500 and most people said nothing but good things about it - are american pickups not prone to the same crappy standards as american cars?

I'm looking for something use, a bit older, and below $10 grand. I'll probably use it for 5 years then get a regular car.

i know nothing about these and appreciate any insight

(ya i know its a bmw forum, i love my e90 but need a second car)
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Old 02-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #2
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i have an e36... recently bought a jeep patriot because I was trashing my car at work. The car was like a 4x4. Its been to hell by I love it dearly!! lol... The jeep patriot is suv/truck.. you can get it 4x2 or 4x4.. I got a 4x2 and it handles really good in snow. 50 bucks to fill the tank and goes for 500+kms. faily large cargo and is fairly insexpensive compared to the others. watch out for 2008.. I heard they got some leak issues. Overall fairly reliable vehicles with the exception of ball joints. You can also get a Jeep liberty with a little more balls but it will also get you in gas.... Good luck...
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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Your best bet may be to find an 'el cheapo' minivan to haul stuff. You can fit 4x8 sheets in the back, it's covered for those rainy/snow day runs to the home improvement stores and you also get some reasonable height inside too.
For those tall items, it may be more cost effective to rent one of their pick-ups for a few hours.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:22 PM   #4
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^^if i ever needed to move shit and not tow, i'd get a minivan.

If i needed to move shit and tow, econoline or the like.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #5
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A SUV/van is ok for getting building materials, but isn't as good for doing runs to the dump or getting landscaping materials (gravel, sand, soil, sod etc..)

I sold my beater pick-up (89 mazda b2200) and replaced it with a trailer.
Here's why:
  1. you don't need liability insurance for a personal trailer - liability extends from the tow vehicle (if you want it covered for theft and collision you have to add it to your policy, but it is DIRT CHEAP)
  2. you won't have 1000 people asking you to help them move or pick up stuff with your truck, because you aren't a driving advertisement 100% of the time.
  3. you can beat the piss out of it and not feel bad.
  4. when you go to buy supplies, you can do it well in advance of the work and not have to unload right away. You can just back the trailer into your garage or yard and un-hitch it.
  5. lower loading height than a truck. (this is a big deal when you are buying 20 sheets of drywall)
  6. one time licence fee - and it's like $40
  7. total maintenance concerns = lube wheel bearings 1 or 2 times a year and get new tires & light bulbs when necessary.
  8. you can lend it to anyone and if they have an at fault accident, it is on their record, not yours (vs with a truck you own). Physical damage to the trailer is covered by your policy, if you have collision on the trailer, but it still isn't a claim on your driving record.
  9. You can get LOADS of anything quickly. Try getting a 1/2 yard of triple mix into an SUV. You'd have to buy/load 14 bags and it is way more expensive. vs "have the bobcat dump it in my trailer" If you get a trailer with removable sides, they can even fork lift a skid on to it.
  10. even if you do get a pick-up as a 2nd car, a trailer doubles your load capacity. (and re visit point #4)
  11. a brand new trailer is only 1500-2000. Search kijiji, you can get them for a few hundred used.
  12. no cert and no e-test every 2 yrs after that
The e90 can probably handle most of your towing, esp for short runs. My e36 is rated for at least 1000 lbs. So, unless you definitely need 2nd car, just get a hitch on the BMW.

Aside from the utility trailer, you can also use the hitch for bike racks or towing small toys, ex: seadoo, dirtbike, atv etc...

Your total investment will be less, over 5 years, and you can stay away from a car you hate. I'd bet you won't even sell the trailer when you are done all your planned renos.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:38 PM   #6
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:22 AM   #7
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effin awesome suggestion! thanks...starting to really consider this...the best part would be that anyone can borrow it and you don't have to chauffeur them and there stuff around...u wanna borrow it, come and get it


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A SUV/van is ok for getting building materials, but isn't as good for doing runs to the dump or getting landscaping materials (gravel, sand, soil, sod etc..)

I sold my beater pick-up (89 mazda b2200) and replaced it with a trailer.
Here's why:
  1. you don't need liability insurance for a personal trailer - liability extends from the tow vehicle (if you want it covered for theft and collision you have to add it to your policy, but it is DIRT CHEAP)
  2. you won't have 1000 people asking you to help them move or pick up stuff with your truck, because you aren't a driving advertisement 100% of the time.
  3. you can beat the piss out of it and not feel bad.
  4. when you go to buy supplies, you can do it well in advance of the work and not have to unload right away. You can just back the trailer into your garage or yard and un-hitch it.
  5. lower loading height than a truck. (this is a big deal when you are buying 20 sheets of drywall)
  6. one time licence fee - and it's like $40
  7. total maintenance concerns = lube wheel bearings 1 or 2 times a year and get new tires & light bulbs when necessary.
  8. you can lend it to anyone and if they have an at fault accident, it is on their record, not yours (vs with a truck you own). Physical damage to the trailer is covered by your policy, if you have collision on the trailer, but it still isn't a claim on your driving record.
  9. You can get LOADS of anything quickly. Try getting a 1/2 yard of triple mix into an SUV. You'd have to buy/load 14 bags and it is way more expensive. vs "have the bobcat dump it in my trailer" If you get a trailer with removable sides, they can even fork lift a skid on to it.
  10. even if you do get a pick-up as a 2nd car, a trailer doubles your load capacity. (and re visit point #4)
  11. a brand new trailer is only 1500-2000. Search kijiji, you can get them for a few hundred used.
  12. no cert and no e-test every 2 yrs after that
The e90 can probably handle most of your towing, esp for short runs. My e36 is rated for at least 1000 lbs. So, unless you definitely need 2nd car, just get a hitch on the BMW.

Aside from the utility trailer, you can also use the hitch for bike racks or towing small toys, ex: seadoo, dirtbike, atv etc...

Your total investment will be less, over 5 years, and you can stay away from a car you hate. I'd bet you won't even sell the trailer when you are done all your planned renos.
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:01 PM   #8
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effin awesome suggestion! thanks...starting to really consider this...the best part would be that anyone can borrow it and you don't have to chauffeur them and there stuff around...u wanna borrow it, come and get it
Just to add to this, ONLY get a bmw hitch, for example, the e36 bmw bitch installs to the bumper mounts and replaces the alloy rebar. The after market crap installs to the spare wheel well...... ouch.

The oem hitch can haul a camping trailer, the aftermarket, well, bent metal for sure.
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