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Old 01-02-2012, 01:54 AM   #31
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McDonalds should have cameras in place at the drive through? Anything they can do to help?

I grew up in that area, many many moons ago... It wasn't that bad of an area. Although there's always a few bad apples...
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:13 AM   #32
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Nick,

Happy new years! Sorry to hear about the mess, the worst things happen to the nicest people. Try calling the MTO and report the incident with that plate, unfortunately...someone may have stolen the dealer plate - there is a lack of responsibility somewhere along the line.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #33
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McDonalds should have cameras in place at the drive through? Anything they can do to help?
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Bingo, theres no way its that bad of an area, and mcdonalds doesnt have some sort of camera system.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:23 PM   #34
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Nick,

Happy new years! Sorry to hear about the mess, the worst things happen to the nicest people. Try calling the MTO and report the incident with that plate, unfortunately...someone may have stolen the dealer plate - there is a lack of responsibility somewhere along the line.
Happy New Years to you too Jon

By the way, I will be calling you sometime this week to setup an appointment, getting some odd engine noises...may be the belt.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #35
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Bingo, theres no way its that bad of an area, and mcdonalds doesnt have some sort of camera system.
I asked the office to check the cameras at the McDonalds. They told me that the cameras have not been working at that location for years now. The police are there often, almost weekly due to drunken late night violence, so they know that McDonalds well.

They informed me that most places in that area with cameras don't actually have functioning security cameras which has been making their life hell in regards to catching people.

The police should enforce companies like McDonalds to have working security cameras....I have no clue why this is not enforced.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:27 PM   #36
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McDonalds should have cameras in place at the drive through? Anything they can do to help?

I grew up in that area, many many moons ago... It wasn't that bad of an area. Although there's always a few bad apples...
Hopefully the investigator put on this case will look into this further. I also noticed some people video taping with their cell phones the idiots that were drunk. Something may surface in the coming days online.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #37
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I'd complain to McDonald's head office about that location and the false sense of security they lead us to believe that their property is monitored and the staff should feel safe working there are they will be a recording of the events. I'm sure that'll get a few heads rolling.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:29 AM   #38
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..I have no clue why this is not enforced.
...whats to enforce?

cameras are not mandated/required by law. youd be surprised how many places all over the city dont have working cameras or dont have any at all...and its entirely up to them to make it happen.

lets not turn this place into London

besides a grainy cctv cam picture probably woudlnt do much to help anyways.... lol heads rolling.
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...whats to enforce?

cameras are not mandated/required by law. youd be surprised how many places all over the city dont have working cameras or dont have any at all...and its entirely up to them to make it happen.

lets not turn this place into London

besides a grainy cctv cam picture probably woudlnt do much to help anyways.... lol heads rolling.
Given the location, and constant violence in that area, I would think whoever owns that McDonald's would have the sense to get some working cameras up instead of non-functioning cameras. It creates a false sense of security not only for patrons, but also for the people working there.

So yes, given that people are actually assaulted in that location on a regular basis, I am surprised working cameras have not been enforced. Its a no brainier. Catch a few people, and the place will quiet down. Everyone causing trouble there on a regular basis knows security does not exist, and that they can get away with this shit.

This is a far cry from enforced cameras on every corner street of the city.....not sure how you jumped the gun to a comparison to London England. Its clear that Toronto has areas where violence surges on a daily basis. If you owned a store in one of those areas, you wouldn't put up cameras to protect yourself? your workers? Your business/investment? and patrons that you need in order to survive?
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Maybe working camera's are bad for business? I guess they have no incentive to fix them...
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I checked the dealer plate in our system & nothing came up, most likely this plate is from a used car lot, sorry I can't help out much.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:21 PM   #42
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I checked the dealer plate in our system & nothing came up, most likely this plate is from a used car lot, sorry I can't help out much.
No worries man, but thank you for looking into it
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that false sense of security goes a long way..... you might be surprised.

and back to enforcing things...there isnt anything to enforce...even if people got shot there everyday. theres no law saying they have to have cameras.

cctv camera quality doesnt get you far to catching people despite what csi may have taught you. youd more than likely end up with some pixelated video of the event.


the expense for a cctv set up is out of their own pocket.... for things outside im sure they just dont care. people are cheap/lazy and cctv set ups/installs are generally expensive.
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that false sense of security goes a long way..... you might be surprised.

and back to enforcing things...there isnt anything to enforce...even if people got shot there everyday. theres no law saying they have to have cameras.

cctv camera quality doesnt get you far to catching people despite what csi may have taught you. youd more than likely end up with some pixelated video of the event.


the expense for a cctv set up is out of their own pocket.... for things outside im sure they just dont care. people are cheap/lazy and cctv set ups/installs are generally expensive.
yes until the owner gets robbed outside his store..LOL!!! then it doesn't become so expensive.
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yes until the owner gets robbed outside his store..LOL!!! then it doesn't become so expensive.
So true lol. That McDonald's is not going to fix its cameras until the owner gets mugged
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