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Old 11-24-2013, 08:55 PM   #1
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Castrol TSW 10W-60 for E39, M5

Anyone using this in our weather ?

manual says 5W-30 or 40.


if yes, where are you getting it from ?

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Old 11-24-2013, 11:12 PM   #2
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I saw it on the shelf at Marinello BMW, if you msg them on max they usually give you a good price. Ive been buying OEM stuff when I need to from them, price is fair. just did a oil change and it cost me 90$ (ish) for 7L of oil and a filter. (not the same oil but bmw synthetic)
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Old 11-25-2013, 08:29 AM   #3
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I think the rule is use 5W30 (I use Castrol Syntec Edge from Costco) unless you find you are losing oil, then use the 10W60. IIRC the earlier e39 M5s had leaky rings.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:21 AM   #4
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You should ask this question on M5board
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:08 PM   #5
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I have read M5board....but there does not seem an answer on the Temperature issue. ie: in our cold weather, would you still use the 10w-60 ?

At least I could not find it.

I will check with BMW Budds, as they are closest to me......Thanks
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:24 PM   #6
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-15 u need to use 5w30-40 cuz u ganna fuc**** tensioner
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Old 11-25-2013, 02:36 PM   #7
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I was doing some reading (note: for E46 M3) and encountered an interesting post that referenced a conversation with an M engineer, stating that 10W60 is fine even in cold temperatures. Check on bob-is-the-oil-guy, lots of good info there. Remember that the TWS has significantly better cold weather performance than conventional 10W-xx oils. With that said, with the -12 we had the other night (had to park outdoors), it was perfectly fine on startup. Pretty sure BMW wouldn't spec the oil for use in worldwide if it couldn't past muster in the winter (Germany gets cold too ).

Edit: Its TWS (Ten-W-Sixty)
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Old 11-26-2013, 10:37 AM   #8
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i have also done research on the subject and come up with the same conclusion as tomek. i'm using 10w60 for winter.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:41 PM   #9
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Just a side note that the Castrol TWS/Edge 10W60 is about the only 10W60 you should run in the winter. Fuchs, Liqui-Moly, and Redline all offer alternatives in the same SAE grade that do not have comparable specifications to the Castrol oil below freezing ambient temps. They're all near-clones of the TWS for warmer climates but fall very short of the cold startup protection that the OE oil offers. This isn't hearsay info passed on without verification but the result of me going cross-eyed studying data tables to know what to sell people.

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thanks for the heads up. i'm running fuchs now but will switch back to TWS before the temps get even colder
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