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Old 11-03-2011, 08:30 AM   #31
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I don't have rust proofing done but from what I'm seeing and reading, I should probably get it done on the E90.

I'll be driving it year round, just picked up Dunlop 3D winters last night for a steal of a price ( 2 x 225/40/18 + 2 x 255/40/18 = $700 w/ 90% tread) 1309 manufacture date (March 09).

I don't see the point to running 225's out front and especially 255's out back, on a E90 323i. The rear tires are way to wide. Think snow shoes, instead of ice skates (what you want).

205's are the way to go for a 3Series.

You'll now need to put a lot of extra weight in the back of the trunk for those 255's in the rear. Just a heads up.

I always downsize the width for the winters. It is sometimes harder to do on full size trucks and suv's for the load ratings reasons, but on a car, you should always do it.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:58 AM   #32
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aren't the rear ones too wide for winter?
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I don't see the point to running 225's out front and especially 255's out back, on a E90 323i. The rear tires are way to wide. Think snow shoes, instead of ice skates (what you want).

205's are the way to go for a 3Series.

You'll now need to put a lot of extra weight in the back of the trunk for those 255's in the rear. Just a heads up.

I always downsize the width for the winters. It is sometimes harder to do on full size trucks and suv's for the load ratings reasons, but on a car, you should always do it.
205 on a 8" wide wheel would be the same as a 255 on a 8" wide wheel - in the sense that they both aren't the greatest idea's. However an 8" wide wheel in mind the 255 is better than the stretched 205 rubber.

I will however throw in some sand bags.
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:04 PM   #33
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I also drive mine year round. I'm running 225/45/17 winter tires on staggered contours.
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:30 PM   #34
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205 on a 8" wide wheel would be the same as a 255 on a 8" wide wheel - in the sense that they both aren't the greatest idea's. However an 8" wide wheel in mind the 255 is better than the stretched 205 rubber.

I will however throw in some sand bags.

205 on an 8" wide isn't that stretched - in fact, it's generally optimal on a 7.5" rim.

255 on 8" is pretty squeezed. I'd take the 205 as a snow tire ANY day (on the 8" rim). it'll be WAY more stable in deep snow and slush.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:02 AM   #35
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205 on an 8" wide isn't that stretched - in fact, it's generally optimal on a 7.5" rim.

255 on 8" is pretty squeezed. I'd take the 205 as a snow tire ANY day (on the 8" rim). it'll be WAY more stable in deep snow and slush.
^ Correct

On my car (OEM BBS Sport E92 Rims), the 255 (Summer Tires) are on 10" Rims, and the fronts are 225's are on 8.5" rims.

You could also do 225's on 8" Rims, and 255's on 9.5" rims.


I think the main issue is, the rims are too big for winter application, thus requiring larger tires.

Once again 255's are way to wide for practical winter use. 225 all seasons might actually perform the same. 205 all seasons for sure would.
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:19 PM   #36
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205 on an 8" wide isn't that stretched - in fact, it's generally optimal on a 7.5" rim.
For a low profile tire optimal size for a 7.5" rim is 225.


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^ Correct

On my car (OEM BBS Sport E92 Rims), the 255 (Summer Tires) are on 10" Rims, and the fronts are 225's are on 8.5" rims.

You could also do 225's on 8" Rims, and 255's on 9.5" rims.
10" OEM wheel? I call bullshit. Widest non-M3 wheel for E92 is 9" and M3 only got 9.5"
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:10 PM   #37
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E92 is 9" and M3 only got 9.5"
OEM ZCP wheels are 10''
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:17 PM   #38
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For a low profile tire optimal size for a 7.5" rim is 225.




10" OEM wheel? I call bullshit. Widest non-M3 wheel for E92 is 9" and M3 only got 9.5"
BS really... I might be off by .5 of an inch. I actually measured it the best one can without un-mounting the tires. (And I know how rim widths are measured).

It's definitely greater that 8.5", and probably closer to 9.5+".

....Bought the car new, so I know they are factory rims.
I don't run BMW's in the winter, and they are staggered, so I seldom take them off(no rotations). I can’t remember the stamping now.

Anyway, 255’s as winters is just ridiculous on a E90. There is a reason it was probably sold cheap.
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Old 11-04-2011, 02:32 PM   #39
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OEM ZCP wheels are 10''
Yes, you are correct, my mistake.

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BS really... I might be off by .5 of an inch. I actually measured it the best one can without un-mounting the tires. (And I know how rim widths are measured).

It's definitely greater that 8.5", and probably closer to 9.5+".

....Bought the car new, so I know they are factory rims.
I don't run BMW's in the winter, and they are staggered, so I seldom take them off(no rotations). I canít remember the stamping now.

Anyway, 255ís as winters is just ridiculous on a E90. There is a reason it was probably sold cheap.
What style are they? According to the ETK, E92 non-M3 wheels only go up to 9"
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Old 11-04-2011, 04:01 PM   #40
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Why are you measuring wheels that have the specs printed right on them?

I don't think there's a post MrRWD makes that doesn't make my head hurt.
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:41 PM   #41
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i've driven my e36 every winter for past 6-7 years(on stock rims/wintertires), i worry little (when alot snow falls and freeze-not piled on secondary streets),with the lower front bumper....scrapes the bottom at times...

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Old 11-04-2011, 05:50 PM   #42
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^^ same here.

i hate driving on unplowed back streets...and i hear ding ding ... ice dinging my under carriage... sometimes a big DING. lol...


oh and this is the first winter i'll be driving on winters.. pretty excited to see how it handles on snow.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:18 PM   #43
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Why are you measuring wheels that have the specs printed right on them?

I don't think there's a post MrRWD makes that doesn't make my head hurt.

The same here. The Same here. If you, Mystikal, are associated with StanceFactory, it's not a shop I'd every visit when my warranty runs out.

(A friend from work called a while back, and wasnít impressed with the response/conversation they had.)


The reason I measured it, is because I'm not a grease monkey, and simply don't have the time to take off the wheels.
For your information, it is not stamped on the outside, but behind hub area, but you knew that.


..... my head hurts...

I was merely trying to provide some useful information, that 255ís is too wide, and that the rims are probably too much of a stretch the other way.

I also know this from experience, that too wide of a tire on a E90/E92 is a detriment. My friend made the silly mistake of buying tires for the look and ended up getting new tires halfway through the season last year. Much narrower tires!!!

Why are you concentrating on "measurements" and not providing constructive information about the possible safety issue of 255ís winter tires.

For the record, although I am not a mechanic, nor a technician, but in business, Iíve successfully converted my project car from automatic to manual. Sourced the parts, pulled the pressure plate, swapped everything over myself. Iím not afraid to get dirty if I have the time.

I thought it would be prudent to offer some assistance that matters, not harp on the stupid points.

I wouldn't run 255' snow tires on a E90/E92/E46/E36
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:22 PM   #44
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These are my setups and they fit perfectly:

Summer: (Hankook Ventus V12's)
225/40/18 on 8" Front Rims
255/35/18 on 9" Rear rims

Winter (Falken HS439's):
225/45/17 on 8" OEM Front Rims
225/45/17 on 8.5" OEM Rear Rims (only a tiny amount of stretch)


The stock tire size for the 8.5" was 255.. but staggered in winter is a no-no.. which is why I opted for the 225 all around. Rather be safe than look cool.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:37 PM   #45
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OEM non-M E9x wheels, even the BMW performance ones, only go up to 9" wide.

And lol @ the "255s are ridiculous on E90s" posts. Bahahahahaha!
FYI, my I have a family member running an E93 335i on an OEM 18" winter wheel setup sold for the E46 M3. 225s up front, 255s out back. Three winters. Daily driven. No issues. Try again.
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